Firefly (The Series)...POLL

Slynky · #1 May 4th, 2003, 06:55 PM

OK, so I'm still reeling from the loss of the Firefly series. It was Joss's best work. A multitude of various colorful characters fleshing out a multiplot story. What a loss!

So, just a curiosity poll:

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Slynky · #2 May 4th, 2003, 11:06 PM

I would have thought more people than this would have been interested in a Firefly poll. Perhaps I was wrong.

If you missed the series, then you missed:

(1) The captain of a space vessel who was more believable than Kirk (et al) ever was;

(2) A better plot than any of the Star Trek series (et al) ever had;

(3) Better acting than ST, Deep Space 9, etc.;

(4) Better looking women (well, except maybe for T'Pol);

(5) And not riddled with episodes where Wesley (or some similar character) didn't re-invent the spaceship to win out over some problem!

Don't get me wrong, I watched most every one of the "Star Trek" series and spinoffs. And, after being a fan of them, I recognize a better effort.

FadingSuns · #3 May 4th, 2003, 11:55 PM

I agree with you that Firefly was a fantastic series. It had a much better framework and more realisic universe than many of the Star Trek episodes. I mean, they even showed that in space, you don't have sound effects!
Yeah, FOX sank the show. Every other episode was inturrupted by some lame movie or 'special'. I use that Last term very guardedly. I'm really hoping that they don't do the same for John Doe.

Slynky · #4 May 5th, 2003, 01:02 AM

Yes, John Doe is (was?) really kewl! Of course, it required a certain audience that had progressed beyond "Stringer". Much the same for all those people who lapped up Star Trek spinoffs yet failed to give Firefly a chance. Such is their loss (and mine as well).

geoschmo · #5 May 5th, 2003, 01:26 AM

Firefly had some really cool commercials, and I heard some good stuff about it. Never saw a single episode though bcause of the scheduling stuff you already mentioned. It's a shame, but a fact. You can't make people work that hard to become fans of a show.

I was one that "lapped up" the Trek spinoffs. DS9 was some of the best episodic TV ever, period. Sci-fi or not. Even Voyager was at times better than the original Trek. Not just in eye-candy, but in quality of writing.

And the nice thing about the trek shows was they were on at the same time every week. At least where I live they were.

Geoschmo

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Slynky · #6 May 5th, 2003, 01:38 AM

Not to get passionate about it, but...LOL...getting passionate about it.

For those who are taken with B5. For those who settled for the "Star Trek" series spinoffs. It's a shame that it wasn't carried forward.

Multi-plot...incredible variety of characters, and better-than-average acting.

For those who can stand the truth, I can tell you the reason it was sabotaged by FOX.

Slynky · #7 May 5th, 2003, 02:15 AM

For example:

Adam Baldwin, who played Jayne in the series.

For those who don't know, there is still a Firefly forum. Lots of people who still wish the series had continued.

OK, beyond all that. How many actors do you know who hop onto the forum and chat with fans? Chat about the series, about the war in Iraq, and about most of anything.

Even the main character hopped on once in a while to talk to fans. Mal, too.

And, that's cool! To spend time with fans.

Preacherman · #8 May 5th, 2003, 02:34 AM

slynky you're absolutely right. it was a cool series, and the plot just began when it was taken off.

same goes for john doe, cool series, just starts to get really interesting at episode 20. and now i hear they want to tkae it off...

ok, i have no fox (living in germany) and don't know their policy but taking a show off after 10 episodes sounds a little stupid. and they have to think about other markets too, i think it would run really good over here in old europe.

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Slynky · #9 May 5th, 2003, 02:51 AM

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Originally posted by Preacherman:
slynky you're absolutely right. it was a cool series, and the plot just began when it was taken off.

same goes for john doe, cool series, just starts to get really interesting at episode 20. and now i hear they want to tkae it off...

ok, i have no fox (living in germany) and don't know their policy but taking a show off after 10 episodes sounds a little stupid. and they have to think about other markets too, i think it would run really good over here in old europe.

Dude, or whatever the German word for it is...

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you are so right. About both. You see, both were too intellectual for the viewing public. BUT, for us American viewers, Firefly had many more problems.

For one, FOX didn't even start the series off with the f------ pilot! They just started the series and aired the pilot a few months later. THAT sucks!

geoschmo · #10 May 5th, 2003, 03:00 AM

B5 suffered from the same inconsistant scheduling in my area, at least until the Last couple seasons. I never knew when the show was going to be on the first couple years. And a lot of times it wasn't on even when it was supposed to be according to the schedule. By the time it settled down to a consistant time slot the story was so far developed I couldn't get into it.

So Slynky, you got a juicy conspiracy theory for us concerning Firefly?

Fortunatly, rumors to the contrary, their is no "trilateral commision" in charge of making sure quality TV shows fail. It's simply short sighted programming executives that have to score big Ratings quickly or they get fired by even shorter sided upper managment. Shows like firefly that go against the flow take a while to develop a following. Networks don't take the long term view enough and give good shows a chance to develop that following. Cookie cutter formula shows get mroe slack because "something like this worked before", regardless of whether they have any virtue of their own.

Geoschmo