Victory Conditions Problem...

geoschmo · #1 October 4th, 2002, 07:57 PM

Ok, this seems to be my day for being suprised by stuff with this game.

I just had a game end where the victory conditions were as follows:
First place player score 200% of second place player.
1.0 years of peace
10.0 years till victory conditions apply.

Normally I don't play using victory conditions, bu tI thought that ALL the victory conditions had to apply for the game to end.

But in this game the first place player had met the first conditions but there was still a war going on. We were past the 10 years elapsed time so I knew that one was met.

Apparently it's an either or thing not a both thing. This is correct? If so I didn't know it.

Geoschmo

Suicide Junkie · #2 October 4th, 2002, 08:12 PM

All the conditions are "OR", rather than "AND"

Otherwise the "Conditions don't apply for X years" would be identical to the "Y years have elapsed" condition.

tesco samoa · #3 October 4th, 2002, 09:04 PM

Geo your having a hard day with this game.

Is that why we love it so much.... Because we can hate it so much...

Wardad · #4 October 4th, 2002, 09:23 PM

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Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
All the conditions are "OR", rather than "AND"

Otherwise the "Conditions don't apply for X years" would be identical to the "Y years have elapsed" condition.

Was that the bolean logical "OR" and "AND" operators or the gramatical "or" and "and"?

Ragnarok · #5 October 4th, 2002, 09:32 PM

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Originally posted by tesco samoa:

Is that why we love it so much.... Because we can hate it so much...

I guess that proves that it's a love hate relationship we have with this game.

Puke · #6 October 4th, 2002, 09:59 PM

actually, the 'dont apply for x years' is the only AND condition, while all the others are OR.

Grandpa Kim · #7 October 5th, 2002, 04:51 AM

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Originally posted by Puke:
actually, the 'dont apply for x years' is the only AND condition, while all the others are OR.

Ah, so!

I'm the lucky stiff that won that game. Like Geo, I fully expected to have to put out all the brush fire wars before claiming victory. All this assumes Geo didn't have an ace up his sleeve and was going to crush me when the right time came.

geoschmo · #8 October 5th, 2002, 05:02 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Grandpa Kim:

Quote:

Originally posted by Puke:
[qb]I'm the lucky stiff that won that game. Like Geo, I fully expected to have to put out all the brush fire wars before claiming victory. All this assumes Geo didn't have an ace up his sleeve and was going to crush me when the right time came.

Oh most definetly I had a large fleet I was assebling and planning on sending your way. They were scheduled for departure in about 3 more turns. Not sure if they would have succeded or not, but it would have been fun.

I saw you were close to the 200% score but I was intentionally keeping another war going cause I mistakenly thought that was all I needed. Live and learn I guess. I never complain about second place.

Geoschmo

capnq · #9 October 5th, 2002, 09:01 PM

I think "Y years have elapsed" is also "and". I've had a solo game set to 15 years elapsed, 1 year of peace that did not end on 2415.0.

sparhawk · #10 October 7th, 2002, 11:28 AM

Yes, and grandpa was a little in luck that my ally: 1stcat bailed out just a couple of turns before the win.

Sparhawk