Ammo resupply

[chris h]

Is it possible to stop a unit re-ammoing a weapon? E.g. say it has two MGs slot one has ammo but slot two none. Tried turning of fire for one but it made no difference?

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by chris h

Is it possible to stop a unit re-ammoing a weapon? E.g. say it has two MGs slot one has ammo but slot two none. Tried turning of fire for one but it made no difference?

Ammo is resupplied to each weapon in turn, HE ammo, then AP, then SABOT and/or HEAT (if weapon slot 0). Once full, it proceeds to the next weapon slot till weapon slot 3.

So you must wait till weapon 0 is filled up and then weapon 1 will eventually start to get its ammo replenished.

[chris h]

Originally Posted by Mobhack

Ammo is resupplied to each weapon in turn, HE ammo, then AP, then SABOT and/or HEAT (if weapon slot 0). Once full, it proceeds to the next weapon slot till weapon slot 3.

So you must wait till weapon 0 is filled up and then weapon 1 will eventually start to get its ammo replenished.

OK so no. In any future upgrade would it be worth or even could it be done that turning of a weapon also stops it from re-arming?

[Felix Nephthys]

Originally Posted by chris h

OK so no. In any future upgrade would it be worth or even could it be done that turning of a weapon also stops it from re-arming?

Why would you not want to rearm a weapon in the first place?

[Kritkeen]

Originally Posted by Felix Nephthys

Why would you not want to rearm a weapon in the first place?

I can see some situations where for example you don't want to waste turns filling up your rifle ammo instead of secondary or tertiary (MG or Explosive) weapon slots. That being said, I don't think it is worth spending time trying to incorporate this to the game code. We, as players, have already too much of an advantage over AI such as selective weapon slot firing, limiting fire to shorter ranges and being able to buy and use ammo storage/trucks when it comes to ammo management. So I personally don't mind the current mechanic.

[chris h]

Reality. Men with an empty weapon are going to want ammo. If it's not possible so-be-it.

[anlubue]

Did I misunderstand the initial question?

[chris h]

Originally Posted by anlubue

Did I misunderstand the initial question?

I don't kmow, did you?

My initial question was can you re-arm a specific weapon. The answer was no, it's done in slot order. I next asked if some future upgrade could do it by turning of a weapon, as you do for stopping it firing. It reality a man without bullets for the weapon would not be a happy bunny if ammo went to another man who still had it.

[Mobhack]

The game gives the human a cheat over the AI with ammo units.

Ammo units will supply any ammo type (ie not smoke, that is not ammo) whether the unit requires a SAM or pistol ammo or anything in between. All available in a pigeonhole in the back of the ammo truck - totally unrealistic.

Now It could be made super-duper complicated for humans:
- We could make you have to decide what ammo an ammo unit carried at game startup. (please tell me what sort of UI you would like for that)
- We could let you bypass the default order of weapon slot and ammo ranking (Again, please do let me know what sort of UI you would like for that)

Of course that would mess up any existing scenarios where the AI has something parked by an ammo bunker as that is the only way the AI gets to use the things. The AI of course does not know how to ask for a SAM...

And ammo truck usage seems to be a problem to many end users, who tend not to read the Game Guide and/or come to these forums. Any of the above would likely cause more connuptions for these users.

So, no there wont be any changes to the abstraction that ammo units already are. They is what they is, and that's that.

(Though I may in some future update remove the ability for resupply while the supplied unit is actually firing - something I have been meaning to get round to but never quite had the time.)

[anlubue]

Originally Posted by chris h

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My initial question was ...

Is it about not refilling a units weapon slot, in the hope, that all involved units will be ready for use sooner?

Yes I guess then I did not understand it correctly, I wondered why you would like to prevent the reloading of an arms weapon slot. The only reason I can think of, would be "military force decomposition".

Seriously, I do not know if supplying the troops altogether goes faster when half of their weapon slots are closed. At least I would not take it for granted.