ATGMs vs infantry

RetLT · #1 July 20th, 2018, 10:07 PM

I have seen BMPs and Bradleys fire their atgms at infantry units.

Is this a bug or intentional? Do these have a kill value since none is listed in the information screen?

I find it odd since atgm units with the atgm as their sole weapon do not do this no do infantry atgm teams.

DRG · #2 July 20th, 2018, 10:24 PM

Next time you see this make a save game and post it...I suspect the infantry was not the intended target but collateral damage but a save game would clear that up

Imp · #3 July 21st, 2018, 07:30 AM

Never seen this as far as I know only one unit carries atgm’s that target soft targets and its intentional, Russian vehicle.

Oche · #4 July 21st, 2018, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RetLT

I have seen BMPs and Bradleys fire their atgms at infantry units.

Is this a bug or intentional? Do these have a kill value since none is listed in the information screen?

I find it odd since atgm units with the atgm as their sole weapon do not do this no do infantry atgm teams.

I've seen it too in Op fire, but not frequent.

Mobhack · #5 July 21st, 2018, 08:48 AM

ATGM can target fortifications - apart from that they will only fire at infantry if they have an HE round, which only the 1 unit has, a BRDM in the Russian OOB.

If they miss and the HE blast accidentally gets one guy in the impact hex - that's a fluke, HEAT is less effective than HE.

RetLT · #6 July 21st, 2018, 11:04 AM

Queued up and ready to go. The BMPs will fire at the spotted German unit. They will only fire 1 missile even though they have 2 shots.

The infantry target is in a house but it is the only target.

DRG · #7 July 21st, 2018, 11:42 AM

I ran it... had animation level to the max. I tried BMP units B1 and E4 and neither fired an ATGM when I fired at their only target ( the unit in the repair yard.) I then tried D6 and it did

I can only assume in that instance the code saw the house as a hard target and it worked as there were casualties but Andy will need to run it through de-bugging to know why

RetLT · #8 July 21st, 2018, 07:27 PM

I am glad you saw it. I would hate for this to be like the funny sound your car makes that stops as soon as you take it to the mechanic.

Some interesting variables to test would be:

1. Does this only occur if the target is in cover?

2. Does this only occur when the firing unit has an ATGM as its second weapons system? I have only seen this with Bradleys and BMPs. I have never seen it happen with a Jaguar or a Tow jeep.

3. Is this unique to vehicle launched ATGMs or will infantry ATGMs do it too? I have never seen this.

4. Does the experience level of the firing unit make this more likely?

DRG · #9 July 22nd, 2018, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RetLT

I am glad you saw it. I would hate for this to be like the funny sound your car makes that stops as soon as you take it to the mechanic.

it almost was. E6 was the last one I tried on the second go through

Quote:

Originally Posted by RetLT

Some interesting variables to test would be:

1. Does this only occur if the target is in cover?

2. Does this only occur when the firing unit has an ATGM as its second weapons system? I have only seen this with Bradleys and BMPs. I have never seen it happen with a Jaguar or a Tow jeep.

3. Is this unique to vehicle launched ATGMs or will infantry ATGMs do it too? I have never seen this.

4. Does the experience level of the firing unit make this more likely?

We will see........Andy has the test game. We'll dig into it in the Autumn

Wdll · #10 July 22nd, 2018, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RetLT

I have seen BMPs and Bradleys fire their atgms at infantry units.

Is this a bug or intentional? Do these have a kill value since none is listed in the information screen?

I find it odd since atgm units with the atgm as their sole weapon do not do this no do infantry atgm teams.

I am not 100% certain, it could just be my mind playing tricks on me, but I have a vague recollection of this happening, many years ago and only once or something. Perhaps it wasn't even this version of the game. By that I mean not winspmbt.