British Light Protected Mobility Infantry

cbreedon · #1 August 2nd, 2015, 04:11 PM

Just reading about these new battalions. There are to be 7 of them.
http://www.armedforces.co.uk/army/listings/l0031.html

Looking at this structure and then looking at the Foxhounds carrying capability. Does this mean that a section will now be 4 men rather than 8?
Or can the Foxhound really carry 8?

Anyone in the know have more on this?

Mobhack · #2 August 2nd, 2015, 08:05 PM

Allegedly the pod holds up to 6, and then there looks like driver +1 in the front=8.

Does not a good choice for a section vehicle - perhaps a misprint (number or type is wrong?), or the 4 vehicles are tacked onto a platoon for ah-hoc transport and used mainly for some scouts and the fire support section?

cbreedon · #3 August 2nd, 2015, 08:36 PM

I found this video on the 2 Anglians facebook.
https://video.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/...a5&oe=55BEDDC3

It is a Foxhound. Maybe you're right that the soldiers will walk and the vehicles are just there for support. It does seem odd that there are 4 sections and 4 vehicles though and the fact that they're called 'mobility infantry'.

Mobhack · #4 August 2nd, 2015, 08:43 PM

a platoon operating as multiples in a COIN situation may have 1 in base (or doing leg patrol) and one out on mobile ops.

A multiple is essentially a demi-platoon as I understand it.

4 of these could handle a multiple (half the sections, half of PL HQ, + attached specialists - interps, EOD, whatever and who likely bring their own wagon if mobile).

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #5 August 5th, 2015, 12:36 AM

C 2/P 4 = 6
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/ocelot-lppv/
http://www.armyrecognition.com/unite...n_picture.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...lt-battle.html

I thought this was personnel layout when submitted. I'll recheck my notes if I'm understanding the issue correctly. Last ref has interior shots.

Regards,
Pat

Mobhack · #6 August 5th, 2015, 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

C 2/P 4 = 6
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/ocelot-lppv/
http://www.armyrecognition.com/unite...n_picture.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/mosl...lt-battle.html

I thought this was personnel layout when submitted. I'll recheck my notes if I'm understanding the issue correctly. Last ref has interior shots.

Regards,
Pat

that picture shows 4 seats in the back, plus there are the 2 hatches for the gunners/observers with standing plates on the floor. So 6 in the back, at a squeeze,IF you want to operate with the hatches permanently open and permanently standing, or sitting on the floor. Does not look like that much room for stowage of kit operating with 6 men, less if you have 2 gunners taking those spots.

so - really only enough for 1x4 man brick in the back, so 4 vehicles can carry half a platoon only, plus 2x4 others from the platoon as drivers and co-drivers of the wagons.

I can only see this as operating half the platoon on foot (or in a base) and the other on patrol ops in the vehicles at one time.

scorpio_rocks · #7 August 5th, 2015, 05:16 AM

It seems no one knows how the new units will work! I believe most are still using mastiffs.

Interesting article asking the same question (with some numbers) https://britisharmedforcesreview.wor...ntsbattalions/

Seems to me a lot of the "mobility" of these light role units will be the poor guys' feet...

cbreedon · #8 August 5th, 2015, 10:22 AM

I seem to think that there will be a lot of walking involved in the mobility. Maybe the TO&E hasn't been quite figured out yet but with 4 sections and 4 vehicles it would seem that they are all meant to be able to ride. But I'm no MOD planner...

On a side note, I noticed that the Foxhound in the game has "0" visibility but the 2nd link provided by Fastboat talks about it have some thermal imaging capability.

scorpio_rocks · #9 August 5th, 2015, 11:07 AM

I think the one represented in game was the early version shipped to Afghan as UOR's or we just didnt know it's capabilities at the time.

I believe all armoured (even lightly) vehicles in the british army have some level of "night vision" capability although what game "number" to put on it I leave to wiser heads than mine.

FASTBOAT TOUGH · #10 August 5th, 2015, 04:51 PM

It was discussed at the time I submitted it as the OCELOT that the TI equipment was an option I believe or Don would've it in. You can check the original source material in either the Fastboat Patch Page or MRAP (Might be easier here, as I transfer them to their "home" threads after I do a verification check on the released Patch.) Threads. I agree with Andy very tight for six mounts.

Regards,
Pat

Post Script-C2/P6 as drawn from the earlier data when first posted in 2011. See MARPS/Page 10/Post #91 (At top.) Further at the bottom of that Post I had listed the above format, data referring back to the previous posts on this topic.