Project Winspww1 1914-1918 ?

[glaude1955]

Hi all,

Apologies if the post is not in the right place on the forum but I don't know where to write.

Is there a project team on a game dedicated to the 1914-1918 period?

Winspww2 and Winspmbt are fabulous.
When it is of Winspww1?

Regards

Yves

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by glaude1955

Hi all,

Apologies if the post is not in the right place on the forum but I don't know where to write.

Is there a project team on a game dedicated to the 1914-1918 period?

Winspww2 and Winspmbt are fabulous.
When it is of Winspww1?

Regards

Yves

Pretty much nobody is actually interested in WW1, really.

You can simulate WW1 easily:
1) Try Poland V Poland in 1930 (for the large 13 man squads in POL) - or hack your own ersatz WW1 units and formations for an OOB.
Set the map to about 40-60 hexes wide (so not too much walking), and probably rather tall.

2) Select map #240 (WW1 Western front) in the set-up, or make your own custom map with deep trenches in both halves, based off a quick spin of the map generator using #240, #241 might do for Caporetto(sp?) if Italy vs Austria (use Germany for Austria, Or some other nation - Hungary may do).
2.1) Set turns to maximum (70 or whatever)

3) Choose a force manually for both sides consisting of nothing but grunts and MMGs, and off-map arty etc.

4) Off you go. See if you actually enjoy the experience...

and
5) for a realistic simulation of WW1 battles, you should really buy and set up manually for both sides but have player=COMPUTER for both. Let the game go, and watch the mayhem with your favourite beverage to hand. WW1 battles had no real command and control - so this is the closest you'll get to ""winding up a clockwork mouse" for each side and letting it go.

6) If feeling really dedicated - then hack an OOB, replacing the formations the AI tends to use with your new WW1 equivalents. e/g the tank coy with a rifle coy of your WW1 type, inf-AT with something else, etc. There are biplanes available as SHPs in some OOBS, flak would be less common etc. FT17 icons are there too.

But basically - other than the dedicated masochist, the "market" for WW1 is not there. Point (5) is really the killer as well, since even 1930 level command and control is way above 1914-18 (radios in all command units, no programmed fire and so on).

Cheers
Andy

[glaude1955]

Thank you Andy for your very clear explanation.
I understand better why this period was not taken into account by your team.
Regards
Yves

[Roman]

To me it sounds interesting. Perhaps it could be achieved also by a Mod

[DRG]

There was a group attempting to put one together for awhile 5 or so years back but it faded away. It's one thing to think a full game mod like this would be "interesting", it's quite another to assemble one and maintain it which is why winSPWW2 and WinSPBMT (and Andy and I) are rather unique.

Don

[Cross]

The group that faded away - that Don was probably referring to - was found here:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/SPWW1mod/

So if you do build your own mod, they have some OOBs and icons etc that you can download here:

http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/SPWW1mod/files/



I believe there was another group that attempted a WWI mod, but I don't think they got as far as the guys linked above.



Cross

[mkr8683]

Richard Hopkins, who oversaw that team, is still on this forum. I was in contact with him a few months back, but he was in the process of moving to another country.

I recently read an article by Dave Grossman on Rommel's light infantry and infiltration tactics against the Italians in WW1 - http://www.killology.com/maneuver_warfare.pdf. Apparently it wasn't all slogging it out in the trenches.

If any of you are in the military or law enforcement, I HIGHLY recommend LTC Grossman's works.

[Akmatov]

Actually think a WW1 version would be more interesting than ppl seem to think. It wasn't all the nice neat lines walking up to machine guns. In a lot of ways the war most fought in WW2 wasn't all that different, especially in the East. Tanks get most of the attention, but there were a lot of infantry actions in WW2 that wouldn't have been much different from WW1 toward the end - I don't think.

Probably the biggest difference was the LMG weighing in at 20 something pounds vs the WW1 HMG at 80 something.

[Von_Gerland]

I'd also be very interested in winspww1. Please keep us informed if you have any news. Thanks!

[DRG]

If there is any news I will be very surprised. AFAIK this project has been dead and buried for half a decade