An annoying game "feature"

Suhiir · #1 November 21st, 2011, 10:06 AM

Not sure if there is a relatively simple fix for this "feature" ... if not it's probably not worth the effort.

Ever since adjacent hex suppression was added for machineguns/AGLs/etc. units suppress themselves when they fire these weapons into adjacent hexes. Since you're generally firing during your own turn you can fire-rally-fire-rally... but it is faintly "amusing" that you often suppress yourself more then the opposition - if they're dug in for instance.

Wdll · #2 November 21st, 2011, 12:19 PM

So if you fire at an enemy unit right next to yours, the unit that actually fires gets suppressed too? Direct fire or Z fire? I haven't noticed it.

Griefbringer · #3 November 21st, 2011, 02:25 PM

Perhaps not all that ridiculous with the AGLs - having a bunch of 40 mm grenades going up at a relatively close range might make you pull your head a bit lower to avoid shrapnel.

(That said, I take it those things have a minimum arming range to prevent thrm going off too close should they hit something on the way.)

Suhiir · #4 November 21st, 2011, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Wdll

So if you fire at an enemy unit right next to yours, the unit that actually fires gets suppressed too? Direct fire or Z fire? I haven't noticed it.

Direct at least, I don't use Z fire much.

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Originally Posted by Griefbringer

Perhaps not all that ridiculous with the AGLs - having a bunch of 40 mm grenades going up at a relatively close range might make you pull your head a bit lower to avoid shrapnel.

(That said, I take it those things have a minimum arming range to prevent thrm going off too close should they hit something on the way.)

They do.

scJazz · #5 November 21st, 2011, 03:33 PM

Not sure they can do anything about this issue. It is super awesome when your APC has its gun knocked out by shrapnel from one of those shots

Wdll · #6 November 21st, 2011, 05:48 PM

I frankly have never seen this happening. I don't ever remember direct firing at an enemy unit next to mine and have my unit which fires at the enemy get suppressed by its own fire.

mkr8683 · #7 November 21st, 2011, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Griefbringer

That said, I take it those things have a minimum arming range to prevent thrm going off too close should they hit something on the way.

I was a M203 grenadier for a while, and if I remember correctly, the arming distance was about 30 meters. Never used a Mk.19 but I would make damn sure that I fired that burst of 40mm HE a lot further than that!

Paderborn · #8 November 24th, 2011, 06:01 PM

I just upgraded my SPMBT-CD v.1 to v.5.5 and have noticed this self-suppression phenomenon a couple of times. I don't know if the patches had this effect on the base game or maybe I'm just getting into close quarters-style fighting more.

gila · #9 November 24th, 2011, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by caroljim68

I just upgraded my SPMBT-CD v.1 to v.5.5 and have noticed this self-suppression phenomenon a couple of times. I don't know if the patches had this effect on the base game or maybe I'm just getting into close quarters-style fighting more.

It probaly the same as it's always been.

Just bringing up this issue causes others to say,, Oh yea, i've noticed that too!

Being adjacent does not always guarantee 100% that the round will always land where intended,perhaps it lands in the firer's hex instead?

Turn agl's off when in close combat.

Suhiir · #10 November 24th, 2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gila

It probaly the same as it's always been.

Not always ... just since the inclusion of adjacent hex suppressive fire

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Originally Posted by gila

Just bringing up this issue causes others to say,, Oh yea, i've noticed that too!

Exactly.