Question about orders and defending

Starry Vere · #1 February 20th, 2011, 05:14 AM

If I set a commander's order to something other than defend, and the territory he is in is attacked, will that then mean that he does not participate in the battle? It seems like that is the case, but I never noticed this until I installed some mods.

Was this a mod change? I thought before (in vanilla) that I could say, order a commander to research or something, and if the territory was attacked he would still participate in the battle.

Valerius · #2 February 20th, 2011, 06:10 AM

If a province does not have a fort then all units in the province will participate in its defense (the exception being stealthy units that are hiding). If the province has a fort then only commanders (and troops under their command) with the patrol order will join with whatever PD the province has in defending the province.

Kobal2 · #3 February 20th, 2011, 09:21 AM

Commanders with Hunt for Slaves orders will also fight with a castle's PD (makes sense, since they're touring the countryside to ask awkward questions).

Commanders with hide or sneak orders won't fight even if there's no castle, and I *think* Assassinate also sends the commander into hiding afterwards. Not positive on that one.

Soyweiser · #4 February 20th, 2011, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Kobal2

Commanders with Hunt for Slaves orders will also fight with a castle's PD (makes sense, since they're touring the countryside to ask awkward questions).

No, they won't actually. They run into the castle. Blood hunt probably fails, don't know that. But they will not defend together with the pd.

13lackGu4rd · #5 February 20th, 2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kobal2

Commanders with Hunt for Slaves orders will also fight with a castle's PD (makes sense, since they're touring the countryside to ask awkward questions).

Commanders with hide or sneak orders won't fight even if there's no castle, and I *think* Assassinate also sends the commander into hiding afterwards. Not positive on that one.

please don't spread misinformation Kobal. Blood Hunting does not make them fight outside the fort, only patrol orders do. Soyweiser is correct here. also, ever heard of the concept "protecting your blood hunters"? especially for blood nations but also for everyone else who bootstraps into blood. by "protecting" it means building a fort at each province that you're hunting in.

Colonial · #6 February 21st, 2011, 11:08 PM

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Commanders with Hunt for Slaves orders will also fight with a castle's PD (makes sense, since they're touring the countryside to ask awkward questions).

Pretty sure they're asking awkward questions of the kitchen staff :P

can you bloodhunt while besieged?

Warhammer · #7 February 22nd, 2011, 01:09 AM

No. At least tonight in SP it would not allow me to.

13lackGu4rd · #8 February 22nd, 2011, 08:39 AM

no you can't blood hunt while sieged.

thejeff · #9 February 22nd, 2011, 10:43 AM

Silly question, but I can't remember right now. Can you blood hunt while sieging?
You control the province, might as well carry off a few virgins while you're there.

Soyweiser · #10 February 22nd, 2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by thejeff

Silly question, but I can't remember right now. Can you blood hunt while sieging?
You control the province, might as well carry off a few virgins while you're there.

Yes you can. But you won't damage the fort then.