Defender NOT Going First in v1.49 Strategic Combat

Aristoi · #1 November 2nd, 2001, 09:50 PM

I have a game where the defender of the warp point has clearly not gone first. This is a v1.49 game, played in simultaneous mode.

Is there any situation now where the attacker will go first in this patch? Or is this a bug?

Aristoi · #2 November 4th, 2001, 11:29 PM

Has no one seen this at all? I'd think it would be quite a bug if it really exists.

PsychoTechFreak · #3 November 5th, 2001, 01:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Aristoi:
Has no one seen this at all? I'd think it would be quite a bug if it really exists.

Space Empires IV
Patch 7

Version 1.47:

1. Changed - Combat has been changed such that order of player's movement is random. In addition, defenders will be placed at the front of the player list so that they get to move first.

I have not seen any difference so far. I still get the first move always.

Mephisto · #4 November 5th, 2001, 06:47 PM

It seems to be still a problem. I have reported it to Aaron.

Commander G2 · #5 November 6th, 2001, 08:17 PM

The fact that combat movement order is not fixed is very disappointing. It really makes multi-player games unbalanced. Hopefully, they can patch this item quickly instead of making us wait 3 months again!

gravey101 · #6 November 6th, 2001, 08:43 PM

I ran a simple test with 2 human-controlled empires in a regular game and it appeared to me that the defender (regardless of player order) was going first on warp point battles. I ran the same test under 1.41 and the higher player on the list would go first. Am I missing something ?

Mephisto · #7 November 6th, 2001, 11:56 PM

It seems only to be a problem in simultaneous games.

Spoo · #8 November 7th, 2001, 12:19 AM

Where the games this was observed in updated from 1.41? Maybe turn order in these games is already set.

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gravey101 · #9 November 7th, 2001, 02:44 AM

argh. This is a _such_ a painful error. I had based a couple of recent strategies in my PBW games on this being fixed. Back to the drawing board I guess. Any response from MM yet ?

PsychoTechFreak · #10 November 7th, 2001, 09:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by [K126]Mephisto:
It seems only to be a problem in simultaneous games.

Also in not simultaneous games, single human player.

Spoo
Sergeant posted 06 November 2001 22:19

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Where the games this was observed in updated from 1.41? Maybe turn order in these games is already set.

New game started after upgrade.