Ancient Ruins

Tricorder · #1 October 31st, 2001, 09:21 PM

Well, I'm almost ready to go back to 1.41 among other things... Ancient Ruins are screwed up. In a map generated by 1.49 the ruins show as

combat movement: We have discovered...

That combat thing isn't even an option in the drop down list in the editor. And the normal selection

ancient ruins unique: We have discovered...

doesn't even get recognized. A ship will colonize this planet as if the ruins weren't even there. So, I ask...

How do you create ruins on a planet with the map editor now since the only way they seem to work in 1.49 (combat movement, etc.) isn't even an option in the planet window?

capnq · #2 October 31st, 2001, 11:33 PM

This sounds like a bug in the Map Editor rather than the patch itself. Has anybody encountered unique ruins on a map generated by 1.49?

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Val · #3 October 31st, 2001, 11:57 PM

I am using 1.49, and was working with the Map Editor this morning. Two planets came up with Ancient Ruins Unique.

Sinapus · #4 November 1st, 2001, 12:21 AM

I've gotten unique techs from ruins in 1.49 games, but when I take a look at the map in the editor the planets that the ruins were found don't have the 'alien ruins - unique' ability.

Tricorder · #5 November 1st, 2001, 03:19 AM

Try this, with 1.49 go into the editor and take a 1.49 generated map you saved. Assign a planet with the starting position for player 1 so you know where you are starting, then on another planet in that same system, add the 'ancient ruins unique - we have discovered... ' to one of the planets with the '4' and '0' for the 2 options below. Then start the game and try to colonize that planet and see if you get the Massive Planetary Shielding.

As for ones already found in a 1.49 generated map, does it say 'Ancient Ruins Unique' or that Combat Movement crap? If it is the Combat Movement crap, try to edit the planet and see if that Com. Mov. heading is in the drop down list where the Ancient Ruins headings are.

I don't know, I just don't get it.

LazarusLong42 · #6 November 1st, 2001, 08:09 AM

I have noticed that while I can see ruins on planets in a game, if I go to the Planets window and click "Special," nothing shows up. It may be related.

Eric/LL

Puke · #7 November 1st, 2001, 08:18 AM

that perticular bug is related to games upgraded from 1.41 to 1.49

native 1.49 games work fine. depending on the other repercussions of that bug, we may have to restart junkyard wars 2.

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Val · #8 November 1st, 2001, 09:07 PM

The PC I was using when I was working on the map was a straight 1.49 upgrade. My PC at home is a 1.41 to 1.49 update, so I will check that tonight to see if it creates Ancient Ruins Unique or not.

The straight convert from CD install to 1.49 was definately Ancient Ruins Unique.

Val

Puke · #9 November 2nd, 2001, 02:38 AM

i meant games in progress, not se4 installations.

Puke · #10 November 2nd, 2001, 08:03 AM

speaking of which, it has just been revealed to me by the special-ops man himself, that if you upgrade a game in progress from 1.41 to 1.49, not only will ruins not show up properly on the system display and on the planets list, but they will not give you any techs when you colonize them.

hows that for a run-on sentence?

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