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Link for USMC Aircraft/Helo Weapons
Couple things :
1) Thought this might be of some interest to the techno-freaks (and just possibly of some use to Andy/Don)
USMC Aircraft Weapons
2) I was curious about how to implement the "GBU-39 Small-Diameter Bomb (SDB)" into the game
250lb SDB
(Yes it's Wikipedia, but it's still good for general info if not specifics)
Make it the same as a normal 2000lb bomb? Or give it the accuracy/stats of a 2000lb Paveway?
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January 13th, 2010, 08:17 AM
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Re: Link for USMC Aircraft/Helo Weapons
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Originally Posted by Suhiir
Couple things :
1) Thought this might be of some interest to the techno-freaks (and just possibly of some use to Andy/Don)
USMC Aircraft Weapons
2) I was curious about how to implement the "GBU-39 Small-Diameter Bomb (SDB)" into the game
250lb SDB
(Yes it's Wikipedia, but it's still good for general info if not specifics)
Make it the same as a normal 2000lb bomb? Or give it the accuracy/stats of a 2000lb Paveway?
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Somewhere inbetwwen the 2 options, accurate, but not so great HEK?
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January 13th, 2010, 12:31 PM
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Re: Link for USMC Aircraft/Helo Weapons
Guys this might help, read the primary article seems like a very potent weapon for such a small package. Here's the addy:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...itions/sdb.htm
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January 13th, 2010, 12:33 PM
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Re: Link for USMC Aircraft/Helo Weapons
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Originally Posted by Suhiir
Couple things :
1) Thought this might be of some interest to the techno-freaks (and just possibly of some use to Andy/Don)
USMC Aircraft Weapons
2) I was curious about how to implement the "GBU-39 Small-Diameter Bomb (SDB)" into the game
250lb SDB
(Yes it's Wikipedia, but it's still good for general info if not specifics)
Make it the same as a normal 2000lb bomb? Or give it the accuracy/stats of a 2000lb Paveway?
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Somewhere inbetwwen the 2 options, accurate, but not so great HEK?
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I'm also considering the Acc, the "Circular Error Probable" is about half that of the JDAM so that means it's more accurate. However while it seems to have a large explosive radius it has little to no fragmentation effect due to the casing so it seems likly the "HE Pen" might be fairly low.
For the moment I gave it stats half way between a 1000lb and 2000lb bomb...we all know weapon manufactures overstate the effectiveness of their products
However if that thermal seeker warhead works as advertised this thing is almost a super Maverick.
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June 13th, 2010, 05:31 PM
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Re: Link for USMC Aircraft/Helo Weapons
I had some info posted somewhere on this when it was still in final trials with the USMC. However I guess it wasn't here but this is the appropriate place for the following.
http://www.defense-update.com/newsca...009042010.html
Note the article ends with the fact that all existing stock is and will be modified as well. They performed 8 for 8 within .75 meters of the target during tests (Actual simulated combat testing can be seen on History Channels "Lock n Load" series.) per the article. I would think this will enhance the fire control modifier and effectiveness to some extent for the rockets in WinSPMBT(?). Go USMC Cobras!! And that from a NAVY guy, maybe the 100+ temp days have finally caught up to me!?!
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June 14th, 2010, 07:50 PM
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Re: Link for USMC Aircraft/Helo Weapons
Yeah, the APKWS should significantly improve helo lethality vs non-tank targets.
For tanks they've had the TOW and Hellfire for years, for everything else they're still using basically early 70's technology.
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June 14th, 2010, 09:19 PM
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Re: Link for USMC Aircraft/Helo Weapons
I thought the APKWS was demonstrated on R. Lee Ermey Lock N' Load show from last summer on History Channel however it was the standard issue rockets prior to APKWS as mentioned is now the standard issue rocket. The old rockets are still a whole lot hurt for infantry though! Providing link to USMC helo part of the show, advance as you like but compare previous rocket accuracy to the current .75 meter accuracy of the APKWS now. http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/vid...c5-56544134230
And I didn't know the AH1J(?)COBRA could carry 16 hellfire missiles as told by the pilot in the video.
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June 16th, 2010, 07:01 PM
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Re: Link for USMC Aircraft/Helo Weapons
Right now the USMC is using the AH-(W) model and moving on to the Zulu or Z model in the next couple of years or so. Glad be of help. I did not think that any J models would still be in service. The J model itself was replaced by the T model which was replaced by the W which entered service in 1988-89.
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Re: Link for USMC Aircraft/Helo Weapons
On a related subject...
The V5.0 USMC OOB lists the V-22 Osprey (should be MV-22B btw) has a heavy helo (unit #650, Unit Class = 205 Heavy Helicopter).
The MV-22B will replace the CH-46 Sea Knight class MEDIUM helicopters not the CH-53 Sea Stallion class HEAVY helicopters. The newest version (CH-53K Sea Dragon) is expected to be in service for the foreseeable future.
http://www.usmc.mil/unit/3rdmaw/Page...ASMiramar.aspx
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2010/04/29/wh...lowing-ch-53k/
http://www.newriver.usmc.mil/AirCraft/V-22.htm
"MV-22s will be deployed to all Marine Corps medium lift active duty and reserve tactical squadrons, the medium lift training squadron (FRS), and the executive support squadron (HMX)."
04/29/10
"The CH-53K is steadily eating away at the V-22 Osprey market. In late 2009, the Marine Corps decided to go with the CH-53Ks to replace their 40-year old CH-53D fleet (MV-22 Ospreys were originally slated to replace the CH-53D)."
And on the subject of MV-22B armament :
06/15/09
"The U.S. Marine Corps MV-22 squadron preparing to deploy to Afghanistan in the third or fourth quarter of this year is now flight testing a turreted gun to beef-up the aircraft’s fire-power. The Bell/Boeing MV-22 unit is likely to be deployed to Camp Bastion in the Helmand region as part of the U.S.’s ramp-up of forces in the country.
The BAE Systems turret uses a GAU-17, 7.62mm cal. mini-gun in the belly or “hell hole” of the tiltrotor aircraft. USMC Lt. Gen. George J. Trautman III, deputy commandant for aviation, says some “basic” testing work is now being carried out by the squadron, and that next month will see full operational tests. Trautman is “fairly confident we’ll meet the fall objective.” Along with the turreted gun, the USMC is also qualifying a 50-cal. weapon for the ramp station. The MV-22 now includes an optional M240 on the ramp. Air Force Special Operations forces are now training to use the 50-cal. gun on their CV-22 fleet because it provides superior coverage for the back of the aircraft."
http://www.tactical-life.com/online/.../06/osprey.gif
http://www.guncopter.com/mv-22-osprey/
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Re: Link for USMC Aircraft/Helo Weapons
With regard to the Osprey belly-mount minigun, see the following:
http://defensetech.org/2010/05/28/st...y-gatling-gun/
Looks like its not likely to be used anytime soon, although the night-vision capability will be. Seems the sideways mounting of the operator console causes a problem. Gee, why don't they mount it facing forward?
Last edited by Hermit; June 21st, 2010 at 07:06 PM..
Reason: Added detail on sideways mounting
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