Scenario Remove Artifacts?

JimMorrison · #1 February 5th, 2009, 04:08 PM

Okay call me lazy, but since I have done no modding thus far, I'm just curious on one point, before I go about making my first mod.

Anyways - Is it possible through a mod to remove Allows Creation of Magical Artifacts, not just from Cons8, but from the game altogether?

I find that Artifacts can be extremely imbalancing to the game in general, but yet that in smaller games that very imbalance makes sense to the flow of the game. However, in larger games, it seems to me that in many cases (WoG remake, anyone?), that geography and other factors can make it impossible for everyone to deal with the guy who shot straight for Cons8, and managed to forge all of the best artifacts first.

Anyway, my thought is to perhaps see if it's worthwhile to make a bundled mod that removes artifacts, removes the Banned Spells, and perhaps puts a few other modifications in place specifically for games with 20+ players.

Redeyes · #2 February 5th, 2009, 04:28 PM

Sure, just:
#selectitem "Item Name"
#constlevel 12
#end

For every artifact you want to remove.

They'll still be wishable, you might have to solve that by removing every effect from the items so there isn't any reason to.

Redeyes · #3 February 5th, 2009, 04:37 PM

Here's a mod doing moving all artifacts to const12.

JimMorrison · #4 February 5th, 2009, 08:43 PM

Actually, that's awesome. I don't mind if they're Wished, as that is a massive investment, and makes them unattractive for most purposes.

Thank you, I think I will use this for the base of my mod. I'm going to couple it with Banned Spells, and then I am going to start working out a mod to introduce thug and SC chassis for the paths other than Death and Blood.

Thanks for your help!

llamabeast · #5 February 5th, 2009, 08:57 PM

Jim, re adding thug and sc chassis to other paths, I'm nearly done with a mod to do that. I've slowed down on it dramatically recently, but I think I will hopefully get started again shortly. I've pretty much done all the graphics and most of the coding, so I just have to sort a couple of sprites and the descriptions. Should be a beta before too long.

JimMorrison · #6 February 5th, 2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by llamabeast

Jim, re adding thug and sc chassis to other paths, I'm nearly done with a mod to do that. I've slowed down on it dramatically recently, but I think I will hopefully get started again shortly. I've pretty much done all the graphics and most of the coding, so I just have to sort a couple of sprites and the descriptions. Should be a beta before too long.

I'm very much looking forward to seeing it. I've been really inspired to make the game friendlier to larger games, and I think these are important steps in that process.

Burnsaber · #7 February 5th, 2009, 11:58 PM

Have you thought about replacing the Cons8 artifact items with less powerful normal ones? With the artifacts removed, I don't think that the Construction path seems that viable after level 6. Sure, Poison Golems are nice, but are they that nice that you'd use up your research to go through empty level 8?

Endoperez · #8 February 6th, 2009, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Burnsaber

Have you thought about replacing the Cons8 artifact items with less powerful normal ones? With the artifacts removed, I don't think that the Construction path seems that viable after level 6. Sure, Poison Golems are nice, but are they that nice that you'd use up your research to go through empty level 8?

I think anything at level 8 Construction will be unique. So you'd just create new artifacts to replace the old ones.

Aezeal · #9 February 6th, 2009, 05:28 AM

I don't see why everything at cont 8 would automatically be an artifact. Guess someone should try to find out though.

Redeyes · #10 February 6th, 2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by JimMorrison

Thanks for your help!

No problem, was in a bit of a hurry when I wrote the earlier but I just scavenged the code from an earlier mod by KO removing all level 6 spells and up.

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Originally Posted by Aezeal

I don't see why everything at cont 8 would automatically be an artifact. Guess someone should try to find out though.

I can confirm that moving constr8 items to level 2 makes them freely craft able, so at least it works the other way around.