Honorable AI (how to keep treaties from breaking)

Annisquam · #1 September 7th, 2001, 03:44 PM

Hi All

What AI settings control how quickly the AI breaks treaties? I have tried the anger settings and the politics settings and neither seems to work. I would like the AI not to attack all ones allies when it plays a turn or two in a pbem game.

Henry

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dogscoff · #2 September 7th, 2001, 04:28 PM

Hmm... nver had this problem. In my experience it is entirely possibl to maintain good relations with the AI for a long time as long as
A> you don't do anything obvious to piss him off (ie sabotage all his ships) and
B> Are a valuable trade partner to him. (Good resource output.)

There was talk a while back about the AI "covetting" planets in your space but I don't think that was ever resolved.

Not very helpful am I?

*Dogscoff wanders off in search of somewhere to sleep.

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geoschmo · #3 September 7th, 2001, 04:28 PM

Those are the files that control it, but you can't just change it on your pc and have it work for a PBEM game. The files have to be changed on the host's pc.

Check out this thread. Don't let the Ai mess up another game for you when you miss a turn in PBW.

Geoschmo

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dogscoff · #4 September 7th, 2001, 04:33 PM

OIC... sorry. From GeoSchoe's reply I understand the original question. I was answering an entirely different question.

Ignore me, I'm partiallly drunk =*)

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geoschmo · #5 September 7th, 2001, 04:35 PM

Heh, that's funny. I was about to say the same thing.

I guess we'll have to wait on him to tell us which question he was really asking. I am not sure now.

Geo

dogscoff · #6 September 7th, 2001, 04:39 PM

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I was about to say the same thing.
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That you are partiallly drunk? Cool. Want anothr beer?

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Krakenup · #7 September 7th, 2001, 06:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dogscoff:
Hmm... nver had this problem. In my experience it is entirely possibl to maintain good relations with the AI for a long time as long as
A> you don't do anything obvious to piss him off (ie sabotage all his ships) and
B> Are a valuable trade partner to him. (Good resource output.)

My experience has been that the most critical factor in diplomacy is when you meet the AI. If you are the first empire that the AI meets, he will declare war on you regardless of what you do. If you are not the first, he will already be at war so he will want to be your friend. The strategic implication is that you want to colonize your own system and nearby systems first to give the AIs time to meet and go to war with each other before you do any long range exploration.

Puke · #8 September 7th, 2001, 10:24 PM

i find its easiest to keep treaties and get the ai to agree to things when you are considerably stonger than them. the trick is, getting them to follow through on what they agree on.

i was playing the andromeda scenario, and i was able to build up a very strong empire and get everyone to agree to peace. no one would agree unless i had a high point score. but even after they agreed.. and agreed.. and agreed every turn for about 10 turns in a row, they never made peace with each other. so i had to kill them.

i dont think the AI is actually capable of following thru.

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Sean92 · #9 September 7th, 2001, 11:10 PM

This may be worthless information, but when I have a treaty(trade alliance) with a race they usually start moving colony ships into my systems. I'm not sure all races do this or not.

Magus38 · #10 September 9th, 2001, 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by Puke:
i find its easiest to keep treaties and get the ai to agree to things when you are considerably stonger than them. the trick is, getting them to follow through on what they agree on.

Absolutely. This is the most disheartening thing about diplomacy now. Regardless of what the AI agrees to it never follows through. This is indeed, extremely discouraging as despite the first glance potential the diplomacy interface seems to offer, most of it does not seem to work.

Other weird things... I was getting along famously with several races including the Eee in my current game. Suddenly, without warning, the Eee declare war on me, even though there attitude remained "Brotherly" toward my empire. I have never been able to normalize relations with them since, they remain brotherly constantly, they even refuse ridiculously advantages trades like several techs in return for a Trade Treaty... I cannot understand it (no I am not a Mega Evil Empire, I a not even ranked first).

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