Scale Bug:Please Post Nations you have had it with

Lord_Bob · #1 November 28th, 2007, 09:43 PM

Scale Bug/Temperature Bug---->?????

Ry'leh, a strong Scales Bug Contender, or any ocean nation, is immune to Cold Scales

Machaka, also a scales bug contender, has preferred temperature of Heat +2

For what races have YOU experienced the Scales Bug?

Also, did you have Heat-3 or Cold-3?

Sensori · #2 November 28th, 2007, 09:50 PM

How are ocean nations "immune" to cold scales? They still get Severe Cold effects even while underwater (2 to encumbrance), just as they get Severe Heat effects. However, income doesn't get affected by heat nor cold scales, but that's the way it's been since D1 and as such makes me think it's working as intended.

Lord_Bob · #3 November 28th, 2007, 09:56 PM

Yes. And this does two things that could trigger the Scale Bug.

First, it is very likely that the busy little min/max'ers have selected Cold-3, which makes a Cold-4 overrun more likely. It also means that the standard income/scales calculation code IS NOT USED FOR Ry'leh. ANOTHER, ALTERNATE, EVIL FUNCTION is used. This EVIL FUNCTION was not properly tested, and has resulted in all these problems.

Remember, we are only talking about single INITIALIZATION function anyway(turn 1). So this is an alternate second initialization function. It most certainly was not adaquately tested.

What races have you experienced the problem with?

Jazzepi · #4 November 28th, 2007, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Sensori said:
How are ocean nations "immune" to cold scales? They still get Severe Cold effects even while underwater (2 to encumbrance), just as they get Severe Heat effects. However, income doesn't get affected by heat nor cold scales, but that's the way it's been since D1 and as such makes me think it's working as intended.

Income for underwater nations is effected by heat scales, but not by cold scales.

Jazzepi

Sir_Dr_D · #5 November 28th, 2007, 11:16 PM

I like your theory Bob. I have no idea if it is right or wrong, but you are thinking along the right logical lines.

It may be my cold 3 as R'lyey that prevents my order scale from going up.

But I know Xietor is currently running into the scales bug as Acro. Xietor, you didn't happen to take cold scales by chance did you?

Tuidjy · #6 November 29th, 2007, 12:24 AM

I've had the bug with C'tis and Neifelheim. Heat 2 and Cold 3, respectively.

shard · #7 November 29th, 2007, 02:16 AM

LA Man in a current game I'm playing, no negative temperature scales, Order 3 Prod 3

Beorne · #8 November 29th, 2007, 05:30 AM

Had the bug with Ry'leh MA cold 3

Burnsaber · #9 November 29th, 2007, 07:14 AM

I've had the bug with LA R'lyeh. Order 3 Sloth 3 Cold 3 Misfortune 2 and Magic 1.

Hadrian_II · #10 November 29th, 2007, 07:36 AM

had the bug with bandar log, heat 3