?'s about reinstalling Win95

dumbluck · #1 June 23rd, 2001, 01:11 AM

1.) can i reinstall win95 under other programs w/out backups (ie will it erase all my email and folders in IE 5.5, all my .wps files, etc.)

2.) I have my win95 disk and reg. #, but can't find my win95 documentation. How do I go about actually reinstalling it???

(Don't you feel special considering that I trust your opinions on this subject more than the Microsoft helplines?!)

Atrocities · #2 June 23rd, 2001, 01:54 AM

You could do a duel boot with a second HD, but w h y ?

dumbluck · #3 June 23rd, 2001, 01:58 AM

Ummmmmm..... huh? dual boot?

It's been over a year since my mother reinstalled win95, and she's having problems w/ crashes and monitor resolution. I thought that reinstalling would help with these problems.

capnq · #4 June 23rd, 2001, 02:18 AM

Reinstalling Windows can solve a lot of problems if nothing else you've tried works. I've only done clean installs on a reformatted drive, though, so I'm hesitant to offer any advice on what to do.

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Cap'n Q

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"

Atrocities · #5 June 23rd, 2001, 02:20 AM

Sorry, I run Windows 2k with a dual boot for 98. This allows me to switch between OS's.

Have you consider talking you mom into getting an OEM Version of Windows 98? A new HD would also be a great benifit.

You see, your current drive could become a slave to a new HD which is sporting a complete Version of 98 (not an upgrade)

As far as keeping it from crashing, I have no advise other than look for things at www.downloads.com Or hit the MS Update pagehttp://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and look for stuff there.

Reinstalling it may help, but unlikely. You should really talk to her about getting an new HD and at minimum, Windows 98. Millenum is also a fairly good OS, and you can pick an OEM Version (FULL VERSION) and a new HD up together for around $200. bucks.

Or you can just simply F-Disk the drive and go from their with a fresh install. But I do not recommend that unless you have an OEM (Full Version) of Windows 95 or above, and know what you are doing. There is a lot to it, and quite frankly, I still screw it up when I do it, and I have done a few time.

Best of luck to you.
EDIT:

Hey capnq, I was reading your bios, and noticed this

quote:
Ex-computer programmer, now disabled

Do you mind if I ask what happened?

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dumbluck · #6 June 23rd, 2001, 05:30 AM

My profile says _WHAT_????????

I'd better check that out. Anyway, thanx for the advice.

Jubala · #7 June 23rd, 2001, 02:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dumbluck:
My profile says _WHAT_????????

I'd better check that out. Anyway, thanx for the advice.

Not your profile, capnq's.

If your computer can handle win98 I agree with Atrocities. Get it.

capnq · #8 June 23rd, 2001, 05:43 PM

quote:
Do you mind if I ask what happened?

Nope; if I minded talking about it, I wouldn't mention it in the profile.

Due to a series of stressful events in college, I developed chronic clinical depression. It wasn't diagnosed until after I'd dropped out of college and been fired from three different programming jobs for poor productivity. It took another couple years for my therapist to convince me to apply for disability, and two more years of legal appeals to convince the government that I qualified. I've been living on disability benefits ever since.

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Cap'n Q

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the
human mind to correlate all of its contents. We live on a placid
island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was
not meant that we should go far. -- HP Lovecraft, "The Call of Cthulhu"

WendellM · #9 June 24th, 2001, 05:40 AM

dumbluck,

quote:
1.) can i reinstall win95 under other programs w/out backups (ie will it erase all my email and folders in IE 5.5, all my .wps files, etc.)

Without backups, I'm afraid that you're probably in trouble. I don't know about IE (spawn of Satan!

), but if you back up your .wps and other data files, then restore them after reinstalling everything, they should be OK.

quote:
2.) I have my win95 disk and reg. #, but can't find my win95 documentation. How do I go about actually reinstalling it???

First, back up everything you want to keep onto another drive. Then format your Windows drive by booting off your startup floppy (go to Start/Help and enter "boot" under Index for how to make one) and using the Format command ("format C:" [Enter]). Once the drive is formatted, go to your CD-ROM drive from DOS (type the drive letter, like "D:" followed by [Enter]) and start Windows setup ("setup" [Enter]).

Sometimes, reformatting and reinstalling Windows is indeed the best way to fix problems (I've done it twice when all else failed). Sadly, reinstalling Windows with a typical setup pretty much nukes your applications and you need to reinstall them, too. They're still there, but the registry doesn't know about them, so they almost always need reinstalling. I'd like to have a talk with the Microsoft microbrain who decided that putting all the info needed by apps into one big file that gets overwritten by a Windows reinstall was better than having it in multiple .INIs like Windows 3 used

. But, I digress...

Knowing this, it's possible to prepare ahead of time. Here's how my system is currently set up: I've partitioned my main drive into three sections (via the DOS FDisk command). C: is 1 gigabyte, which holds nothing but Windows itself. E: is 5 gigs, holding essential applications (programs I use daily) and all my data files. F: is the rest of the space, holding non-essential apps (games, mostly). D: is my old drive, for backups, which also has Windows (and PKZip) installed on it so I can boot off of it. This info won't help you now, but it should help you in the future if you ever need to reinstall Windows again.

When I set this up, the first thing I did was install Windows on C: and configure it the way I like. I then zipped it up on D: (using PKZip, but WinZip would probably do fine). Next, I installed my core applications on E: and zipped up the Windows drive again. Lastly, I installed non-essential apps on F: (I didn't zip them, but did set them up to store all their data on E).

So, now if I need to go back to a "virgin" Version of Windows, I can just unzip the Version I zipped after setting up my core apps (the C:-only, "pure virgin" zip is a fallback, just in case). That way, I have Netscape, my primary document editor, and other essentials already configured, so Windows knows how to find them on E:.

This also makes it easy for me to back up E: (with my core apps and all my data) on to D: just in case my main hard drive dies. I also back up C: periodically and before I do anything major to Windows (like a DirectX upgrade or installing software that I suspect might cause problems). That way, if Windows ever gets messed up, I can easily return to a working Version. The periodic backups also mean that I can fall back to the way it was days or weeks ago. I swap my drives in BIOS, boot off of D: (now called C) format my C: partition (now called D), and unzip a recent C: backup there. When I swap the drives back, I'm booting into a working Version of Windows. (supposedly Windows 2000 can do something like this on its own, but I've also read that it has other problems, so I'm steering clear of it for now and using a method that I know works for me.) I then only have to reinstall programs added since the Last backup. I keep a couple of previous backups as well, so that I have fall-back positions available in case something subtle in Windows got screwed up in the past.

Hope this helps,

Wendell

Atrocities · #10 June 24th, 2001, 05:52 AM

quote:
chronic clinical depression

Tis a small world. Fought that for nearly 3 months Last year, finally diagnosed, and so far so good, treated. Nearly cost me my job as I had to take the time off for medical, and now, with the down turn in the semi conductor industry, I am looking at a lay off because of it.

Nothing can be said about that insidous dease except "get help" before it makes you do something that you normally would not do.

I wish you the best. I know what it can do, and I sincerely pray that it does not disable me any more than it already has.