Magic Duel and communion

Corwin · #1 February 11th, 2007, 11:43 AM

Do I remember correctly that bonus levels from Communion counts when communion Master cast Magic Duel?

Also is there any rule regarding which of the enemy astral mage would be challenged to the duel? Would it be the enemy astral mage with highest level of astral, or is it random?

Bonus question - what happens to communion masters when their slaves retreat (or when they are killed). Do they reverse back to the original magic levels?

And what would happen to communion slaves if their master retreat from battle? Will they keep their personal buff spells that they got because their master casted it while he was still around, or would they lose it?

Corwin · #2 February 11th, 2007, 06:43 PM

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Corwin said:
Do I remember correctly that bonus levels from Communion counts when communion Master cast Magic Duel?

Also is there any rule regarding which of the enemy astral mage would be challenged to the duel? Would it be the enemy astral mage with highest level of astral, or is it random?

Bonus question - what happens to communion masters when their slaves retreat (or when they are killed). Do they reverse back to the original magic levels?

And what would happen to communion slaves if their master retreat from battle? Will they keep their personal buff spells that they got because their master casted it while he was still around, or would they lose it?

C'mon guys, someone must know the answers for these questions. Please?

mivayan · #3 February 11th, 2007, 07:28 PM

1) No idea. Test it and tell us!

2) Probaly random, not sure.

3) The bonus is recalculated every time a master casts a spell, what matters is how many communion slaves exist right then.

4) Once they're buffed, they're buffed, the buff has no connection to the master after it's cast.

sunray_be · #4 February 13th, 2007, 01:52 PM

AFAIK (based on dom2 tests) :

1) No, items or communion have no effect
2) No, it seems random
3) I think they reverse back to the base level (never tested this situation however, high lvl spells are scripted for the first 5 turns)
4) hehe, the slaves are free again, keep the protections and follow the script. Try this with a golem (comm. slave + 4xhold + attack closest) when Fire shield, Soul vortex etc are available from a retreating communion master

Baalz · #5 February 13th, 2007, 02:53 PM

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4) hehe, the slaves are free again, keep the protections and follow the script. Try this with a golem (comm. slave + 4xhold + attack closest) when Fire shield, Soul vortex etc are available from a retreating communion master

Seems like this could be a good strategy to pull with crystal slave matrixes, no? With a couple of good support mages, that'd be the only equipment you'd need for a thug.

thejeff · #6 February 13th, 2007, 03:01 PM

It's a little tricky setting it up and you risk your support mages to attack in that first round or two, but it does work nicely.

Corwin · #7 February 13th, 2007, 07:09 PM

Yes, that's exactly the strategy I was planning to use after some experiments. Interesting side note - until your masters retreat, slaves do not do anything ignoring their script.

Thank you guys.

One more question - when casting global spells/dispells, do +magic items on the caster matter (as equal of +5 gems per additional level of magic user above the spell's level), or do only "native" magic level counts, as with Magic Duel?

thejeff · #8 February 13th, 2007, 08:42 PM

Not quite true that slaves won't do anything until the masters retreat.
Slaves won't do anything on any turn in which any master casts. So if you have a SC master, he can contribute to the buffing of the slaves and then attack.

I abused this in Dom2 with a VQ and Counts. Along with a couple fortune tellers and later spectres to cover other path buffs. Very nice that Sabbath and Communion work together.

Corwin · #9 February 14th, 2007, 05:36 AM

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thejeff said:
Not quite true that slaves won't do anything until the masters retreat.
Slaves won't do anything on any turn in which any master casts. So if you have a SC master, he can contribute to the buffing of the slaves and then attack.

I abused this in Dom2 with a VQ and Counts. Along with a couple fortune tellers and later spectres to cover other path buffs. Very nice that Sabbath and Communion work together.

Hmm, interesting. That's good to know, thanks.