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Old February 17th, 2005, 03:04 PM

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Hi all,

A problem I have is that I have a province next to an enemy province. If I move my army into their province they simultaneously jump into my now unoccupied province and then however hard I chase them they just run circles around me, cheating and always knowing where I am going.

A simple RULE CHANGE to prevent this would be that if you try to enter each others provinces like this a cross border battle takes place and the winner pushes the loses back into their province.

However that isn't how the game works, so how DO you get around this problem, there must be a tactic to stop this?

Apart from this irritation I think it is a fantastic game BTW.

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Old February 17th, 2005, 03:10 PM
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Depending on army size, armies can miss each other when they cross a border. Larger armies are unlikely to be missed. It is an effective tactic to run amok in enemy territory destroying temples and increasing unrest by repeatedly taking provinces. That is what the computer is doing. Unless the army is large it is unlikely it is trying to defeat you so much as damage you.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 03:56 PM

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BoneDaddy, are you quite sure of that? I have never seen that situation in all my games.

Andy, exactly what situation are you describing? Are there two provinces, A (yours) and B (thiers) and you are trying to move A->B on the same turn they are trying to move B->A? If that is the case there will, in my experience, always be a battle. Whether the battle is in province A or B is not well known tho.

Perhaps you are referring instead to a situation with three or more provinces i.e.: you move from A->B while the enemy moves from B->C, then back to A, etc, etc. I refer to this problem as the "wack-a-mole" problem and it is mostly encountered while playing dom2 AI SP. The way to get around it there is to use Province Defense to control what provinces the AI chooses to select (it selects the weakest, richest province, i think). In this way you can coax the AI into attacking the province that your army is about to move to and thus destroy them.

Additionally, attacking the raiding army magically, via remote summoning or some kind of teleporting, will cause a battle before the movement phase so you can stop them that way as well.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 04:00 PM
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The information is from the book, page 12.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 04:01 PM
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I think, if I understand correctly, that you *cannot* catch an army if it moves to a hostile province while you move to another hostile province (where they currently are). You would catch them if you moved to the next friendly province where they are headed, or if you jumped on them via magical movement.

At least, I have never seen an army of mine caught by the enemy when they were followed, and I have used fairly big armies in this situation. They have always avoided the pursuers, at least until magical movement came into play.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 04:08 PM
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You can ussually use providence defence to stop these minor invasions. Otherwise you just have to guess where they'll go, which is typically a province (A) with a temple and/or (B) that is only slightly defended or undefended.
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I'll take your word for it that the manuals says that. But even so, I have never seen two armies moving into each other's respective provinces "miss" each other. There is always a battle - it is just a matter of which province the game decides to hold it in.

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Uhh, that was BigDaddy. We're not the same person. At least not the last time I checked.
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Hmm, there seems to be a confusion all over these boards concerning your identities. BigDaddy believes you are he (or believes that I believe that you are he). He even claims nerdiness as in post regarding random numbers.

Still, I know that the cigar smoking skull with a child being raised into glorified nerdhood is bone_daddy. That is good knowledge.
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Old February 17th, 2005, 07:38 PM
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I have long since come to terms with my inner nerd.

Haven't you?
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