America the Police State

[Atrocities]

I am reading an article about the over criminalization of US Society. LINK (Foxnews.com)

"When you start moving to that third-world model, where even law abiding people are afraid of police, it�s a big step backward for civilization, and even law enforcement in general," Kopel said

The book chronicles several horror stories.

There�s 8-year-old Hamadi Alston (search) of New Jersey, who was put in a jail cell in 2003 for five hours for using an L-shaped piece of paper he found in a book as a play gun in the schoolyard. There have been numerous reports of people � even children � being arrested and detained with handcuffs for eating in Washington, D.C., subway stations.

Schoolteacher Hope Clarke was hauled off a cruise ship in 2003 allegedly for not paying a fine for leaving marshmallows at a Yellowstone National Park campsite. After being detained for 10 hours, she was taken into shackles before a judge, who by that time acknowledged she really did pay the fine.

Dave Kopel of the Independence Institute (search) in Denver said aggressive law enforcement has become increasingly a problem since the 1990s, when more agencies incorporated SWAT teams and governments wanted tougher zero-tolerance policies.

We know first hand around here about stupid laws. A car prowler cought by the car owner is let free, with a ticket, and the car owner is arrested and charged with assualt. Go figure.

[Thermodyne]

Yep, it kinda makes you wonder.

First thing that comes to mind is:
Do you have to fail an IQ test to be a cop in the inner city?

Second thing is:
If a cop stops you and you are less than fully polite, is there is always some law that you are in violation of?

Third thing that comes to mind is:
Why does every state legislature have to pass a bunch of new laws every year? Wouldn�t it be more efficient to just enforce the ones already on the books? And how often do you hear about old laws being removed from the code?

[Jack Simth]

No, but it helps.

Dunno. Do you have one of those federally approved and mandated trash bags in your car that they stopped making a few dacades ago?

Because they have to be seen as Doing Something to get re-elected. Yes, but when has government been about efficency? Besides, do you really want them enforcing what's actually on the books (see above)? Oh, about 1% as often as I hear about them passing a new law... if that.

[Makinus]

You want an old law? Brazilian Comercial Code of Laws: Published in 1850 and still in use (with some modifications)... it�s funny to read it, it was created when Brazil was still a Monarchy and is full of strange lingustical expressions, and it even have a chapter (now invalidated) that regulates the comerce of slaves...

[Atrocities]

Dunno. Do you have one of those federally approved and mandated trash bags in your car that they stopped making a few dacades ago?

You know that I once got a ticket for this. I told my Grandfather about it and he called his friend, Bill. Bill was a lawyer at the time, nearing retirement. We disputed the ticket and it was thrown out.

That was in 1988.

I now keep a trash bag in the car at all times. STUPID LAWS are on the books so STUPID COPS / PROSECUTING ATTORNEYS can make your life hell and steal your money and your freedoms.

[Jack Simth]

Ah, but do you have the specific, mandated variety? If not, theoretically you can still get a ticket for not having it....

[Atrocities]

You know whats funny, the laws are seldom if ever inforced against those who wrote them. Take for instance the law that states that a senator or congressman are not to be paid for days the do not work. Senator Kerry tops the list for days missed with pay. He was paid over 600k that he was not entitled too. Yet do you think he, or all the others, will give the money back? Hell I was once hounded by the IRS for owning them $14.50 one year. The fines and fees brought that amount to nearly $120.00 a year later when they kept most of my return to pay it. Yet senators and congressmen can keep several hundred thousand dollars of our money without question even though there is a law against that?

It is extremly frustrating to know that the rich keep getting richer while the poor are made to pay more and more.

In France they knew how to deal with injustices like this. They simply did the unthinkable and beheaded everyone.

[Jack Simth]

Careful! If the wrong person reads that, you could be labeled with the T word!

[Thermodyne]

Jack Simth said:
Careful! If the wrong person reads that, you could be labeled with the T word!

ROTFLMAO If the peeps at Homeland Insecurity ever run this forum past their filters, they will think they have cracked a huge cell of anarchists.

[Atrocities]

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