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January 21st, 2005, 02:11 PM
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OT: MSFT screwing Opera Users with hotmail?
Anyone else out there use Opera browser with Hotmail?
As of around 11AM this morning, it looks like Microsoft, in its extreme fascist-ness, may have decided to start screwing with Opera Users who also use Hotmail. I can no longer get any of my Messages in hotmail displayed when using Opera. But, of course, it works just fine with that piece of cr*p Internet Explorer.
Howabout Firefox/Mozilla? Anybody having any problems with hotmail?
Damn, MSFT are bastards...
thanks,
Alarik
Ps: and, yes, I have fiddled with the preferences to no end, it just suddenly happened around 11 AM ... was fine before that. Those jerks...
EDIT: took out quasi-profanity
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January 21st, 2005, 02:58 PM
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Re: OT: MSFT screwing Opera Users with hotmail?
Hotmail works fine in Firefox for me.
Can you edit the browser part of the user agent string in Opera to make it say that it is internet explorer?
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January 21st, 2005, 03:08 PM
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Re: OT: MSFT screwing Opera Users with hotmail?
Well...that's agravvating. It's working now. Grr...if there's one thing I hate worse than getting screwed by MSFT it's having unpredictability in my computer...
oh well.
Thanks anyways...
Alarik
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January 21st, 2005, 03:33 PM
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Re: OT: MSFT screwing Opera Users with hotmail?
There has been deliberately sand-bagging of Opera documented with MSN. They were sending style sheets that screwed with Opera's page layout so that people would think Opera had bugs. The response to this was the (in)famous 'bork-edition' of Opera.
http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2003/02/14/
SO it's not impossible that MS is 'doing it again' although they are risking another lawsuit if so. Opera settled for several millions in a settlement rather than pursue the first one to the bitter end. If they are forced to sue again they could be ticked-off enough to force the issue this time.
One way to test this would be to alter your user-agent string. The authors of Opera have provided the means to do this in the browser itself because of their status as a 'small player' in the world of big sharks.
http://www.opera.com/support/search/....dml?index=570
You can try substituting an IE user-agent string and see if it solves your problems.
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January 21st, 2005, 10:44 PM
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Re: OT: MSFT screwing Opera Users with hotmail?
Um, IIRC, the Opera thing with MSN wasn't them deliberately hating Opera. It had something to do with a behavior that Opera did regarding culture information.
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January 22nd, 2005, 01:16 AM
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Re: OT: MSFT screwing Opera Users with hotmail?
MS has been reported on many blog and anti MS sites that MS intends to make all non exporer browser uncompatable with any of there software. This has caused a large upcropping of promised legal battles, battles that Microsoft can easily afford and will win.  The monopoly continues.
And is very old news
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