What happens if ? (weird questions)

PDF · #1 October 27th, 2004, 08:42 AM

1/ I GoR a unit gained through Enslave that was a magic leader previously : does he regain magic skills ?
2/ Can I put 2 Soul Contracts on a leader ? Do they stack and generate 2 devils/turn ? (given that the drawback is an Horror Mark the 2nd SC has indeed no bad effect..)

Boron · #2 October 27th, 2004, 09:01 AM

2) It worked perfect in 2.12 . Haven't tested it in 2.14 maybe you still get 2 but maybe it is now like with clams that they can't stack either .

Wauthan · #3 October 27th, 2004, 09:07 AM

1. I use this combo very rarely since capturing an enemy spellcaster is very rare. GoR have produced spellcasting units. If it is their original skills or the default I don't know.

2. Nope. After 2.14 item doubles don't yield a doubled result. Give him one Soul Contract and one Clam (or something similar).

alexti · #4 October 27th, 2004, 10:34 AM

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1/ I GoR a unit gained through Enslave that was a magic leader previously : does he regain magic skills ?

Yes

archaeolept · #5 October 27th, 2004, 10:48 AM

in fact, to further elaborate, doing this can yield you a second (or third...) unique. That is, if you enslave Thuella, you will gain a Thuella clone by GORing her (she will be given a new name), and you could still have re-summoned the original.

Nagot Gick Fel · #6 October 27th, 2004, 11:59 AM

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1/ I GoR a unit gained through Enslave that was a magic leader previously : does he regain magic skills ?

Yes

That's not so obvious. I think you'll just get a new leader based on the unit type you enslaved. Eg, if you enslave a Mystic with FFFSS, will you get the same spread if you GoR him? And what if the mage had been magically empowered prior his enslavement?

An enslaved-then-GoR'ed unit will retain some of its characteristics (experience, afflictions), and will lose some others (name, heroic ability). Not sure if magic skill belongs to the former or latter Category.

alexti · #7 October 27th, 2004, 03:06 PM

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1/ I GoR a unit gained through Enslave that was a magic leader previously : does he regain magic skills ?

Yes

That's not so obvious. I think you'll just get a new leader based on the unit type you enslaved. Eg, if you enslave a Mystic with FFFSS, will you get the same spread if you GoR him? And what if the mage had been magically empowered prior his enslavement?

An enslaved-then-GoR'ed unit will retain some of its characteristics (experience, afflictions), and will lose some others (name, heroic ability). Not sure if magic skill belongs to the former or latter Category.

Yeah, I haven't thought about randoms or empowered commanders. I don't know what will happen then. Though they would certainly lose all their items. Yet another reason to use charm instead of enslave mind