Most powerful spells?

[Turin]

This game has really a wonderful wide range of spells, yet ther are a few that are so powerful, with such a huge benefit, that you see them used every game.
So I thought a list would be nice and those spells that show up too often will hopefully get a nerf in future patches.

So here is my list:

early game: (lvl 1-4)
1. Mistform (best buff spell in the game)
2. flaming arrows (better than a lvl 9 fire blessing for just 1 gem)
3. paralyze ( very cheap and very good at killing SCs)

mid game: (lvl 5-7)
1. wrathful skies (need to kill an army? here you go!)
2. bind ice devil (cheap and one of the best scs)
3. forge of the ancients (quite nice to build all the toys)

late game: (lvl 8-9)
1. wish (well can�t really beat this spell)
2. manifestation (very cheap commander assasination)
3. earth attack (see above)

So please post your lists
Greets

[Nagot Gick Fel]

early game -
1. Communion Master
2. Communion Slave

midgame -
1. Communion Master
2. Communion Slave

late game -
1. Communion Master
2. Communion Slave

[Endoperez]

Early - Almost anything that scales up with power if you have right pretender.


Mid - Quickness. It really starts to rock in midgame, and in lategame the big foozles will need many casters anyway.

Other combos, like Communion master/slave + Summon Earthpower + attack spells.

Late - all the bombs that "should be nerfed", inluding Ghost Riders and Wish, plus everything that will surprise your enemy.

[Yossar]

Phoenix Pyre
Bind Arch Devil + Phoenix Pyre = fun

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Yossar said:
Bind Arch Devil + Phoenix Pyre = fun

If you're looking for _funny_ devastating comboes, then the absolute funniest has to be -

(now guess, which combo could annihilate a ~400-strong invading army, half of them hoplites and hypaspists, the rest being mainly Vine Men/Ogres and Claymen, with some flagellants, shortbows and 2 elephants thrown in - when you only have 1 Lamia Queen, 9 Black Dryads, less than a dozen harpies and even less Manikins to defend your province? And I really mean annihilate: I have more fingers than I need to count the enemies who survived that battle)

[Graeme Dice]

That combo would be haunted forest + swarm.

[Nagot Gick Fel]

Graeme Dice said:
That combo would be haunted forest + swarm.

Correct.

The Lamia Queen was here only for her undead leadership (I could have used a Panic Apostate instead), as I didn't want to rely solely on the provincial Manikin leader. Undead leadership makes Hauted Forest much more effective, the reanimated Manikins actually move and fight for the whole battle, instead of dissolving almost immediately.

Watching this battle reminded me of Borg assimilation in VGAPlanets.

[Boron]

Graeme Dice said:
That combo would be haunted forest + swarm.

So when you have haunted forest up the dragonflies from swarm are manikins ?

[Boron]

Ah descpription from haunted forest says everyone killed gets a manikin .

Does "undead or lifeless are not affected" in spelldescription mean that i can't spam raise skeletons and they get reanimated as manikins too ?

If the manikins created through haunted forest effect survive the battle do you keep them then or do they dissolve after battle ?

Furthermore spelldescription states that it works only in own dominion .
So i wonder how useful this spell is all in all ?

Swarm costs 1 nature gem but is 100 fatigue so the spell scripting ai should use more then 1 nature gem / swarm .

So you have the effect only in own dominion + either invest a lot of nature gems for swarm or have something like militia getting killed that you benefit from the spell ?

Is this really worth it when you can with zero gemcosts either spam false horrors or skeleton hordes ?

And there is always the dispel problem . Per pearl you only get 0,5 nature gems so normally the dispeller has to invest not as many gems as you have to invest + not to forget the continuing investment of nature gems for swarm + the micro you need to do this .

[archaeolept]

haunted forest + swarm is an exploit IMNSHO.