Can item induced afflictions recuperate/heal?

DeathDaemon · #1 September 2nd, 2004, 04:04 AM

Can an affliction like lost an eye from an eye of aiming be fixed? I doubt it... I tried a search but can't seem to get any decent results.

Arryn · #2 September 2nd, 2004, 04:11 AM

It's a curse. You have to die to get rid of the item that's causing the affliction, before you can possibly be healed of the affliction.

Arralen · #3 September 2nd, 2004, 06:03 AM

.. but you can't get rid of an eye of aiming (or other cursed items) apart from dying and resurrecting as undead. Sadly, this will most likely get you more afflictions, which are not that easy to heal on undead units.

Yvelina · #4 September 2nd, 2004, 06:59 PM

At least, with the eye of aiming, it makes sense. But when your heart gets replaced with a black heart, and the surgery damages your chest, you should be able to heal the damage. Unfortunately, I bet that's hardcoded.

Another things that does not make sense is that units that are immune to disease can still generate gems with the fever fetish. (Not that I am complaining, mind you)

Boron · #5 September 2nd, 2004, 08:08 PM

the eye of aiming iirc gives you +7 precision but you lose 3 or 4 precision by lost an eye affliction .

this makes the eye of aiming a rather worthless item if my remembered figures are correct .
only a net +3-4 precision + you can never remove it again .

DeathDaemon · #6 September 2nd, 2004, 08:11 PM

I believe it's +8 -3 for lost eye for a net of +5. I think it's actually pretty worthwhile as most mages' att and def values are worthless no matter how strong or weak they are... unless they lose their other eye too

Sheap · #7 September 3rd, 2004, 02:14 AM

I believe (though have not tested) that if you lose the other eye also, the Eye of Aiming will still give you the precision bonus, applied in this case to a base precision of 0.

Afflictions that are caused by an item can't be healed as long as the item is attached. Since most such items are cursed (not all - the Bane Venom Charm and Fever Fetish aren't) these afflictions are more or less permanent. Also, if a unit has an affliction "built in" (such as the Allfather) this affliction can't be healed.

DeathDaemon · #8 September 3rd, 2004, 02:18 AM

so are tartarians unable to recover from their initial afflictions?

Sheap · #9 September 3rd, 2004, 02:22 AM

No, tartarians can get better by way of Gift of Health or the Chalice. Priestesses and Fairy Queens can't heal them, but it's because they're undead, rather than because of anything special about the affliction. In this case they start with an affliction, but it's not considered "part of the unit" like it is with the Allfather (who has the affliction on his character sheet during pretender selection).

Cainehill · #10 September 3rd, 2004, 10:40 AM

Eh - I've read on the forums that the Allfather _can_ be healed of his one-eyed status, because it shows up as a wound. Presumably the same is true of Anwyn the blind (heroine of Man). For the Allfather, I suspect that Vanheim doesn't get GoH or the Chalice as readily as other nations, so it doesn't happen often, but with Man...