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Old March 10th, 2004, 10:00 PM

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Default Can someone tell me the differences between castles???

Why would you pick one over the other??? Advantages/Disadvantages??? Why would you pick a mountain citadel over a dark citadel when they are exactly the same but a dark citadel is cheaper? How are they different?
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Default Re: Can someone tell me the differences between castles???

For the looks and one comes with a laundry service.

But seriously, they aren't exactly the same. Have you looked at the stats?
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Old March 10th, 2004, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: Can someone tell me the differences between castles???

Also, there are differences even beyond the stats, having to do w/ how they are set up for defense and what degree of defensive archery fire they have - ie. how good they are when defending against an opponent storming your castle.
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Default Re: Can someone tell me the differences between castles???

A Dark Citadel has no towers, whereas a Mountain Citadel has quite a few if memory serves. The entrance layouts also differ somewhat.
Towers are unkillable, and keep firing as long as a single defender remains.
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Old March 10th, 2004, 10:24 PM

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Default Re: Can someone tell me the differences between castles???

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For the looks and one comes with a laundry service.

But seriously, they aren't exactly the same. Have you looked at the stats?
Yes the dark citadel is cheaper and takes less time to build and has more administration. But otherwise everthing else is the same. So why would I pick a mountain citadel if I get so much more for so much less with a dark citadel???
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Old March 10th, 2004, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: Can someone tell me the differences between castles???

Like Taqwus said - there are a lot of towers which fire at your enemies on the mountain citadel, and they have to run through a long narrow passageway flanked by towers at point-blank range. The dark citadel doesn't have any towers and just a simple opening - no corridor of death approach.

So there is a huge difference, if you actually use your castle ever for defense. If you're facing a nation like Ulm in a mountain citadel and you have access to spells like 'sleep cloud' or 'poison cloud' or pretty much any cloud you can hold them for a long long time by choking up the passageway with these 'clouds' and watching them take their effect. The best part is, as soon as the people in front of them die, the others in the opposing army will run straight into the poisonous clouds and die themselves. Caution, castle defenders not included.
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Default Re: Can someone tell me the differences between castles???

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Like Taqwus said - there are a lot of towers which fire at your enemies on the mountain citadel, and they have to run through a long narrow passageway flanked by towers at point-blank range. The dark citadel doesn't have any towers and just a simple opening - no corridor of death approach.

So there is a huge difference, if you actually use your castle ever for defense. If you're facing a nation like Ulm in a mountain citadel and you have access to spells like 'sleep cloud' or 'poison cloud' or pretty much any cloud you can hold them for a long long time by choking up the passageway with these 'clouds' and watching them take their effect. The best part is, as soon as the people in front of them die, the others in the opposing army will run straight into the poisonous clouds and die themselves. Caution, castle defenders not included.
aaah i see. so why doesnt the mountain citadel have more defense points in its stats???
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Default Re: Can someone tell me the differences between castles???

Defence points reflect the number of units required to "breach the walls", letting you attack the enemy inside.
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Default Re: Can someone tell me the differences between castles???

Because the defense stat refers to how hard it is to break down the gate - not how tough the fortress is once you've broken it down and are trying to go in. so something weak like a mausoleum you just have to lean hard against the wall to make a breach, whereas a mountain citadel or dark citadel you have to batter it for weeks to make a way you can actually get inside.
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Default Re: Can someone tell me the differences between castles???

Because defense points denote how much damage the castle gate can take before it breaks. In other words how difficult it is to besiege.

But I would like a stat shown at startup telling how many archers there are on each castle

Edit: st.patrik beat me to it it seems.

[ March 10, 2004, 21:14: Message edited by: Bossemanden ]
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