Defensive Spells when enemy is routed ?

NTJedi · #1 December 14th, 2003, 10:22 AM

Hopefully this gets fixed in the upcoming patch. I couldn't help but notice how spellcasters are casting 'fire_shield' or 'barkskin' when ALL of the enemy troops are retreating. Whether I'm retreating or vise versa. Spellcasters shouldn't be casting these defensive spells if all of the enemy has been routed.

#2 December 14th, 2003, 01:24 PM

I would hope that they would stop casting at all when EVERY UNIT (not most) is retreating or cast their most accurate or Non-miss (100 Precision) spells at retreating armies. Mages have a spiteful tendancy to fireball/orblightning some of your own troops. Though that could just be them letting out some work frustration.

ywl · #3 December 16th, 2003, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by NTJedi:
Hopefully this gets fixed in the upcoming patch. I couldn't help but notice how spellcasters are casting 'fire_shield' or 'barkskin' when ALL of the enemy troops are retreating. Whether I'm retreating or vise versa. Spellcasters shouldn't be casting these defensive spells if all of the enemy has been routed.

There could be some berserkers or contructs (Golem, statues) remained. I don't exactly remember how it's handled but I think these units keep on fighting. So, it's not totally bad that the spellcasters casting defensive spells.

The AI could actually count how many enemies will keep on fighting but it'll be more work. And it's not totally realistic - since your mages can't right click their enemies to see if they'll rout.

My two cents.

NTJedi · #4 December 16th, 2003, 08:42 AM

Spellcasters shouldn't be casting defensive spells like 'fire_shield' or 'barkskin' when ALL of the enemy troops are retreating.

johan osterman · #5 December 16th, 2003, 09:13 AM

The likely cause is that they have no offensive spells that might reach the retreating enemies.l So since they cannot reach the enemies with their spell they cast a defensive spell. Which means that the casting of the defensive spell is inconsequential, the alternative would be them holding instead.

Wendigo · #6 December 16th, 2003, 09:22 AM

Mages like to show off.

'Watch this!'

Taqwus · #7 December 16th, 2003, 05:56 PM

Not necessarily inconsequential -- if they're leading communions or sabbaths, the extra fatigue might be bad for the communion/sabbath slaves.

NTJedi · #8 December 18th, 2003, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by johan osterman:
The likely cause is that they have no offensive spells that might reach the retreating enemies.l So since they cannot reach the enemies with their spell they cast a defensive spell. Which means that the casting of the defensive spell is inconsequential, the alternative would be them holding instead.

Fire Darts have a range of 25+... and my basic 90-gold witches from Machacha are usually near the middle/front. Played several games and I'm quite sure range was not a problem.