Zero Zero Zero

PeterD · #1 June 6th, 2004, 07:48 PM

At about turn 150 in a solo game against 11 TDM
AI's I noticed a yellow "never" in the build
menu.

I checked the planet out and it looked normal
except the population read 0M (none).

There had been no intel attacks, no plague and
I could still access the planet, it just wouldn't
build anything. The min/org/rad totals showed
0 0 0.

Over the next few turns 4 more planets did this.
No attacks or plague's and the game isn't
limited rescource. Some of the planets had been
around a long time some were newly colonised.

Some of them were green cross planets so I guess
it wasn't bad conditions.

I built a cargo ship and sent over some
population and off it went building again.

The only change to colonisation I made was in the
settings file. Automatic col = 2 (to hurry
things along).

Is this the problem? Any help appreciated.

Droplede · #2 June 7th, 2004, 12:03 AM

Actually, this sort of thing happens when you send colony ships out without people aboard. It makes the colony, but nothing else happens. Are your shipyards set to automatically send ships out somewhere, and then you're giving colonization orders a turn later?

Atrocities · #3 June 7th, 2004, 12:30 AM

Sometime plagues happen and are not mentioned in the turn even file.

I have seen this a couple of times in many of my games.

PeterD · #4 June 7th, 2004, 07:41 AM

Ok I can believe there's a plague and its not
mentioned.

But if all the people die you'd lose the planet
and alls it facilities, wouldn't you?

In answer to the first post, my shipyards aren't
set to anything automatic.

Paul1980au · #5 June 7th, 2004, 10:44 AM

Having something that happens not turning up in the events turn file needs to be fixed Version 2 anyone.

PeterD · #6 June 7th, 2004, 03:44 PM

I thought it was something I was doing.
It still could be but this "non reporting event"
sounds plausible.

Thanks

oleg · #7 June 7th, 2004, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
If all the people on the planet die from a plague or some other event, you do not lose the facilities. The planet goes dormant like you are describing. Only if the population is killed in combat are the facilities also destroyed and the colony erased.

Really ? I just lost a colony to a plague and planet lost all facilities. Planet converted to the uncolonized status. With a loss to values too

geoschmo · #8 June 7th, 2004, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by oleg:

quote:
Originally posted by geoschmo:
If all the people on the planet die from a plague or some other event, you do not lose the facilities. The planet goes dormant like you are describing. Only if the population is killed in combat are the facilities also destroyed and the colony erased.

Really ? I just lost a colony to a plague and planet lost all facilities. Planet converted to the uncolonized status. With a loss to values too

Well, I may be going off old information. I know in the past you kept the colony with zero population. Perhaps that was changed.

Fyron · #9 June 7th, 2004, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Well, I may be going off old information. I know in the past you kept the colony with zero population. Perhaps that was changed.

I think it was lost in the change from SE3 to SE4.

Check to see if your planets are rioting. Various things happening in your empire can lead to an increase in anger levels. What happiness type did you pick? Bloodthirsty and Neutral get angry over new colonies established.

PvK · #10 June 8th, 2004, 12:38 AM

Anger and even riots don't decrease population, though.

I was pretty sure plagues and random or intel-generated population loss events would leave empty colonies - the colony box shows (except on moons) with no population bars inside it. Enemies who land troops will get the planet and all facilties and units that were on it, too, IIRC.

PvK