NeGoc 5 Rules

[Ruatha]

As the rules on the SEIV forum aren't accessible, here they are again:
I belive these are the current rules...


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GAME RULES:
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ANCIENTS:
1. Ancients (4) cannot attack eachothers homesystem (or enter it) before turn 80 (Build, build , build).
2. No gifts or trades whatever.
3. Ancients cannot attack minor races before turn 120, only defend. Therefore, before turn 120 all ancients must offer and accept atleast non-agression treaty with all minors. Use your minors to kill off those who won't ally themselfs with you! 4. The ancients cannot have colonies outside their homesystem! The only exception is in other ancients homesystems (after turn 80) or the First ones system. This means that the ancients are limited to 5 systems, for ever. 5. The ancients aren't allowed to hand down tech to minors. Only research points and resources through treaties.

MINORS
1. Minor races may attack whomever they want to.
2. AI minor races may enter treaties with all other races, how they wish.
3. Disregarding rule 6, human played minor races may only have military alliance or partnership with one ancient race at a time, but whatever treaty they wish with how many minor races as they wish.


FIRST ONE
1. First race (1) may not attack anyone or leave their homesystem unless:
2. The first race is used for police actions in case of violation of the above rules.
3. First ones cannot have any treaties with anyone else.

ALL
1. Retroseries are allowed. (If you want to pay for it use it) . 2. Absolutely no e-mail diplomacy prior to in-game contact. You may mail each other on all other issues but not concerning in-game events and strategies prior to in-game contact.
3. Total turtelling is forbidden!
(You may shut down worm-holes and build system gravitational shields but there must always be atleast one way to enter a system. If it doesn't have any worm-holes it can't have a system gravitational shield.
This goes for individual systems aswell as your entire empire.
You may shutdown all wormholes into your empire, then you may build system gravitational shields in all systems but one!)

ADMINISTRATION
1. Breaking the rules may result in a warning, or being kicked from the game. Depending on the nature and severity of the transgression. Or an attack by the first ones on the ancients or a minor race (even one who hasn't broken the rules if it's associated with a rule-breaking ancient). Decided by the host.
2. When an empire becomes without player the host might go in and check that empire from time to time until a replacement is found, he will then see to it that the empire builds defences. 3. Missing four consecutive turns without notifying the host will get you kicked.
(Mail the host if you're going to be away a longer time)
4. We will try to run automated turns, so try to avoid asking for "Last player upload turns". So before asking for the game to be taken off automatic timed turns consider it thouroghly! ALPU is reserved for big events like marriage, childbirth and deaths in the family. The turn time might be increased in the future as turns become bigger and take more time to play. 5. The host has absolute power in hosting issues, questions might be put to a vote or decided upon by the host.


WIN CONDITION
The win will be collective and equal for all in the winning team; Winning is achieved by either one ancient forming partnership or military alliance with all remaining minor races, even if there is only one ancient left he must achieve this goal, atleast one minor race must be left at the game's end. So who can win?
- One ancient race and it's minor races.
- One minor race or a team of minor races who are left standing when all else are extinct (All other ancients and minors). This means that there might from 1-16 winners in this game (One ancient and all minors).
(If all ancients are destroyed the winner will be decided by the remaining players and the gamehost, in that case the game ends when the players think so.) The First ones cannot win and is not counted as an ancient in above win conditions.

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SETTINGS (NOT RULES, THESE YOU DON'T NEED TO REMEMBER ================================================== =

PLAYERS
1, First one: In the center of teh galaxy, more racial points and better system than the ancients, no worm holes connecting to rest of galaxy.
2-5: 4 Ancients, 3000 racial points, great starting system with sphereworld as starting planet, ruins with all tech, 2 ringworlds, plenty of planets.
All adjusted to the players planet type and atmosphere.
6-20: 15 normal races, 0 racial points, normal start.

MAP
The galaxy is 255 systems with plenty of planets, normal amounts of wormholes. Middle-life standard sector 2300+ planets, edited manually. Minimum 4 systems between players. Some long distance worm-holes to avoid closing-in of some empires. Some extra odd systems. Nothing game un-balancing.


SETTINGS
1.NORMAL SE IV GOLD patch 4 v 1.91 no Mods.
2. No tech trading, No tech gifts. No gifts or trading at all.
3. Low tech start.
4. High tech cost.
5. No surrendering.
6. Only own score is shown.
7. 0 Starting race points for minors, 3000 for ancients and 5000 for first ones. 8. Intel is disabled, set your cunning to 50%. 9. Max 100 mines/sector.
10. Max units 20000
11. Max Ships 8000
12. 1 Starting planets.
13. 48 Hours timed fully automatic turns. (If all players upload before then the game turn will be executed)
Eventually it might be moved to 72 hours if empires get large and turns takes more time.
14. Starting Resources 100000
15. Home planet Value: Good
16. Event Frequency: None
17. Auto-nag when 8 hours remind of turn time, auto-nag Last two player to upload. (I do not send mails manually telling you to "Hop to it"!! so don't complain to the host about being nagged!)

OTHER
1. Always have a valid e-mail adress where the host can reach you.
2. Max/min of racial traits is allowed (if you want to do it you'll have to pay the prize by lowering something else) (RECOMMENDATION: Increase defence, offense and maintnance reduction)
3. Roleplaying is encouraged aswell as in-game stories. But not required!
4. The aim of this game is to have FUN.
5. When uploading your empire mark wich shipset you are using. No duplicate shipsets allowed. If you are using a stock shipset select "STOCK SHIPSET -XXXXXX" Where XXXXX is the shipset you are using, it must be the same as when you created your empire file.
6. It might not be me who hosts the game, if I have to go away for awhile I'll set up a guest host. 7. There might be more than one host at any given time, no host should participate in the game as something else as first one race.

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Some questions that have arised that I belive all should get the answer too.

The ancients must offer and accept atleast non-agression treaties with all minors. Anytime a minor offer non-agression the ancients must accept, the ancients may refuse higher treaties if they wish, but then please offer non-agression instead.

There are ways an ancient may sabotage for the minors:
Closing worm-holes, blowing up stars and/or planets in uninhabited systems. Blockading warp points (Not so useful as the minors can choose a treaty to by-pass). Making nebulas and black holes in uninhabited systems.

And there are ways an ancient may help a minor:
Build new warp points.
Construct planets.
Destroy storms.
Guard warp points or planets against other ancients with a fleet or units; sats, fighters, mines.


What they cannot do even if it would be possible:
Destroying inhabited planets and systems, then the first ones will leave their center system for a while! Building tech filled ships that are captured by the minors, by intent. (If you're just stupid it will pass, but the first ones will make that judgement and they will have a hard time beliving it!!)


One more important rule: The ancients are not allowed to build a system gravitational shield in their system, the minors and the ancients must be able to pop in. Other than that you may defend your system hovewer you wish.

The minors aren't allowed to do total turtelling, there must always be atleast one theoretical way into your system, it migh not have any warp points but then it can't have a system gravitational shield, if it has a system gravitational shield it must have atleast a warp point.


Hi all.
It seems that all trading isn't impossible.
So trading will be allowed for minors, but not from ancients to minors, nor gifts from ancients to minors. What ancients can gift is the creation of things, such as planets, worm holes, stars etc. Not ships, weapons, colonized planets and colonization techs. (Ancients aren't allowed to colonize outside of home system).

[astruskustuvas]

I love it
can i bee ancient?

Sounds interesting, or at least very different to the kind of game I normally play. Count me in, as a minor.

Mark

[Alneyan]

The game has already started, but there are a few spots available. It is named (Nearly Gods) The Conflict 5 at PBW, and there are two spots available if memory serves right. (Both minors)

However, Oogs missed several turns in a row, so Ruatha might decide to remove him from the game, leaving his position open (he is an Ancient one). Don't quote me on this one though, as I am not the game owner.

[Joachim]

Originally posted by Mark the Merciful:
Sounds interesting, or at least very different to the kind of game I normally play. Count me in, as a minor.

Mark

It is very interesting - a very fine scenario from Ruatha. And, it is just starting to hot up in the Galaxy.

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Alneyan:
The game has already started, but there are a few spots available. It is named (Nearly Gods) The Conflict 5 at PBW, and there are two spots available if memory serves right. (Both minors)

However, Oogs missed several turns in a row, so Ruatha might decide to remove him from the game, leaving his position open (he is an Ancient one). Don't quote me on this one though, as I am not the game owner.

Oogs have said that he is ready to retire if anyone wants hisplace as he is having computer and RL problems.
I'll arrange it later..

[astruskustuvas]

ok ill take it

Ah yes, in fact it's 40 turns in. Shame. I thought it was advertising for a new game.

I'll definitely watch out for the next one though.

Mark

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by astruskustuvas:
ok ill take it

It's open, grab it !

[astruskustuvas]

already in my pocket