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Old May 10th, 2004, 03:06 PM

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Default How to get AI EMpire to Surrender !?

Greetings !

I am playing this TDM-ModPack game and I've almost wiped all of an AI's Race except for one tiny planet with 19M population left, and my Fleet in Orbit.

Since that race has ICE colonization, I'd like it to SURRENDER instead of just wiping them out and missing the opportunity to get that technology. But alas, when I ask it to surrender, it always tells me it's too close to victory to surrender.. yeah right...

Any suggestions HOW I could sway those poor souls into surrendering !? I am not at war with them, but their mood is "murderous".

THANKS !!

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Old May 10th, 2004, 03:33 PM

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Default Re: How to get AI EMpire to Surrender !?

Greetings to you RiTz21:

What TDM race are you referring to?
Some AI Players will NOT surrender to (friends) and some AI Players WILL fight to the death no matter what

Many of us find this to be realistic, what would you say?


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Old May 10th, 2004, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: How to get AI EMpire to Surrender !?

The default value is 10X score. I *think* that some (most?) TDM races still use this.

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Old May 10th, 2004, 05:02 PM

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Default Re: How to get AI EMpire to Surrender !?

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I am not at war with them, but their mood is "murderous".

Declare war on them, and we will see only then if they react to your surrender terms when they understand you are very serious about this matter.

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Default Re: How to get AI EMpire to Surrender !?

Another option: Back off a few sectors or even out of the system entirely blocking warppoint(s), build some Boarding Ships, and wait 'till he builds more colonizers and transports. Then capture colony tech and alien slaves for your appropriate domed worlds. THEN glass 'em...

And yes, some AI's will NEVER surrender.
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Default Re: How to get AI EMpire to Surrender !?

Leave a few planets for him to colonize and yes have a boarding ship able to go after that ice colonizer caputre it - put it back to youre shipyard - wipe him out - anayise the ice colony ship he build and you will get the tech and can cream him at the same time.
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Old May 11th, 2004, 03:41 PM

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Default Re: How to get AI EMpire to Surrender !?

offer it a treaty of subjugation and give it the colony tech it doesnt have (rock or gas) 875 times, then ask in return the one planet it has left.
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Default Re: How to get AI EMpire to Surrender !?

Just taking their Last planet will not give you Ice colony tech. It will give you his breathers, whether that is Methane or whatever. You need to do as others have said is a capture a colony ship with the Ice technology component on it. You can get this by either boarding his ship or trading somehow with him.
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Default Re: How to get AI EMpire to Surrender !?

The only way I have ever gotten any AI to surrender is to glass a few homeworlds and blockcade the rest
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Default Re: How to get AI EMpire to Surrender !?

actually in a stock game i blockaded a homeworld for 4 turns offered term they refused so i reduced pop then tropop captured at 1500m pop
ai player immediatly surrendered no new message
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