Mines & treties.... A few questions

[JurijD]

I have a few questions about when mines explode: (beside the obvious times)

This is the situation:

You have a treaty with someone and you mine their planet while the treaty is in place. Then (when the mines are layed on the sector with their planet) you break the treaty.

Questions:

1. Will their bases/ships that were in that planets sector at the time when I broke the treaty be damaged by my mines the next tick when he gets a fresh turn with the treaty gone?

2. Will the planet get damaged by the mines? Say he has Satelites in orbit or WPs on the planet. Do they get damaged?

3. If not (to 1. & 2.); what happenes when say 1 of their ships comes in that sector... will the rest of their ships/bases that are sitting in orbit get hit by mines too or just the incomming ship?

4. What happenes if the other empire builds a ship at that planet while the mines are in place. Does the new ship get damaged or not?

5. What happenes if he launches fighters or drones from the planet? Do they get hit the moment they are launched or not at all?

6. What happenes if I attack that planet and he has fighters on it... they obviously launch for defence... BUT do they get damaged by my mines before or after battle .... or do they even get damaged at all?

Thanks for your answers.

[ September 01, 2003, 18:59: Message edited by: JurijD ]

[DavidG]

The short answer is mines only hit when you enter the sector from another sector. The don't go off if your ship 'enters' the sector due to just being built on the planet.

[JLS]

Originally posted by JurijD:
I have a few questions about when mines explode: (beside the obvious times)

This is the situation:

You have a treaty with someone and you mine their planet while the treaty is in place. Then (when the mines are layed on the sector with their planet) you break the treaty.

Questions:

1. Will their bases/ships that were in that planets sector at the time when I broke the treaty be damaged by my mines the next tick when he gets a fresh turn with the treaty gone?

yes, if there is movement

2. Will the planet get damaged by the mines? Say he has Satelites in orbit or WPs on the planet. Do they get damaged?

No, only ships that move in that sect

3. If not (to 1. & 2.); what happenes when say 1 of their ships comes in that sector... will the rest of their ships/bases that are sitting in orbit get hit by mines too or just the incomming ship?

I don't think so, (Just incoming)- good question and should be tested

4. What happenes if the other empire builds a ship at that planet while the mines are in place. Does the new ship get damaged or not?

NO, I don't think so - until it moves

5. What happenes if he launches fighters or drones from the planet? Do they get hit the moment they are launched or not at all?

NO not by mines

6. What happenes if I attack that planet and he has fighters on it... they obviously launch for defence... BUT do they get damaged by my mines before or after battle .... or do they even get damaged at all?

NO- Fighter units do not get hit by mines



[ September 01, 2003, 19:20: Message edited by: JLS ]

[DavidG]

Originally posted by JLS:

4. What happenes if the other empire builds a ship at that planet while the mines are in place. Does the new ship get damaged or not?

NO, I don't think so - until it moves

I think the ship can safely move and exit the sector. It will just get hit if it moves back into the sector.

[JLS]

Thanks for the clarification DavidG

[JurijD]

one questin still hsn�t been answered... what happenes when one ship enters a sector that already has ships in it and is also mined by another empire... does only the entering ship get damaged or the others too...

[Arkcon]

Originally posted by JurijD:
one questin still hsn�t been answered... what happenes when one ship enters a sector that already has ships in it and is also mined by another empire... does only the entering ship get damaged or the others too...

I just tested it now, pretty suprised by the result. I put a space station and 13 small mines in orbit. I gifted the space station to another player. Had him declare war ane enter the sector. Boom. Destroyed the ship, not the base, and there were mines left over.

So in that case at least, a stationary ship doesn't get hit by mines.

[Fyron]

Why is that surprising? It makes sense to me. Why would a ship that is not moving be destroyed by mines?

[Taera]

it still has hostile ID. i doubt mines are just as primitive unmovable objects as today's mines are. besides, even today not all are. a ship has other readings that heat from engines, you know.

[Taera]

you still can sweep without moving, but it should trigger the whole minefield. supposedly works only when you have one ship at the sector (or all are minesweepers), and it might actually be a new bug we all have never thought about (read the 100+ ways to tell your addicted to se?)