Spanish OOBs - pictures only

[Pibwl]

I have some suggestions as for Republican Spain and Spain, limited to pictures this season.

Republican Spain

86, 124, 143 Obus 75mm L32 - picture is Italian mountain 75/18 gun. Italian OOB uses 36901 for a field gun, which seems correct (by the way, it probably shouldn't be modern 75/32 gun, but rather one of WWI 75/27 guns, but I won't go into this minefield now).

88, 126, 145 Obus 76.2mm - picture is 18pdr, should be Soviet M.1902, eg. 19786 or 19802

93, 130, 148 Obus 105mm - I'm attaching a picture of Vickers 105mm

(95, 131, 150 Obus 114mm - I guess it should rather be short on-map 4.5in FH, than 4.5in long-range gun, which was accepted by the British in 1940 - but it would concern picture, icon and weapon's range)

103 Canon AT 45mm - picture is 37mm Pak, correct is 49

(107 Canon Inf 37mm - more specific picture of TR mle 16 is 30291 or 28004)

(111 Canon Inf 65mm - I proposed a specific picture of 65mm gun in the Polish OOB)

119 AmetralladoraAA - better Maxim-looking AAMG picture is 27141

121 Canon AA 37mm - picture and icon is AT gun - possibly it should be German 3.7cm flak? (Soviet one was introduced in 1939 only) - then icon 64, picture 141

153 Bateria 152mm - picture is 8in, should be Soviet 23256 (if it is M.1910 howitzer).

154 Bateria 155mm - picture is Soviet 152mm ML-20, should be 30290

159 Bateria 150mm - picture should be 17039, as unit 152 Bateria 150mm

164, 178 Mrtrs Delaunay - icon and picture is 75mm howitzer. It looked like this: http://www.amonio.es/mortero_delaunay.htm
Possibly it's pm19722

186 Amet. vz.37 - picture is Soviet SGM(?). Correct is eg. 22114. Same for unit 214.

189 Amet Browning - picture is Vickers, should be eg. 31000 - or maybe rather its Polish 7.92 clone 29695, which was exported to Spain (I don't know, if M1917 was). Same for unit 210.

314 Esc de F.Amet - picture is some belt-fed MG - correct DP LMG is 27093, as unit 319.

325 Camion GAZ ZiS - photo is Polish Ursus, should be 165 for ZiS-5 or 166 for GAZ.

(331 G. Asalto LMG - could have a picture of LMG 27077, as unit 317)

362 F.Amet Montana - picture of Hotchkiss LMG is 27077, now it is Benet-Mercier.

(393 Potez 25 - much better icon is 483 of R-Z - it was a large aircraft with rectangular wings.

(395 Circo Krone - as far as I could find, Circo Krone was a nickname of a bomber unit - and this plane is just Kolhooven FK.51)

406 Vildebeest MkIV - I'm attaching a photo of Spanish Vildebeest, which looked quite different.

408-410 Breguet Br XIX - a picture is not Bre XIX, but rather some transport. I'm attaching a proper one in government markings

430 Douglas DC-2 - icon is single-engine.

(441, 442 CB Tiznao - all improvised APC currently have one icon - maybe for example these two should be given 2845 (from Polish Kubuś improvised APC)? Grey would be OK, for "Tiznaos" meant "the grey ones")

(443 CB Durruti - maybe a better icon is 457 with a turret? This unit has HMG, and a turret on a picture)

(445 Sadurni de Noya - I'm attaching pictures better showing the vehicle. It is usually known as IGC Sadurni, btw)

446 El Piojo - I'm attaching a correct photo of a vehicle known as "Piojo Móvil" (Mobile pillbox?) - from
http://www.fotosmilitares.org/viewto...=1963&start=30
(Unfortunately, I haven't found other information, especially to verify its multi-MG armament)


454 CB Bilbao M 32 - photo is UNL-35 (maybe a better one, that already used by unit 453). I'm attaching a correct Bilbao.

(472, 475, 477 Trubria M - in all cases a correct name is "Trubia" - https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A...rmas_de_Trubia)

(473 Artilleria M 16 - it's worth to give this Schneider CA1 a new icon someday, but as for now a better one seems 1916 (only lacking a wedge bow), than a turreted current one)

479,480 T-26 M 33 - photo in fact shows distinct Nationalist markings - I'm attaching a proper one (or even the Soviet one would do).

Michal

[Pibwl]

Spain (Nationalist)

038 Vierling Azul - proper pic is 13201

043 8cm GrW 34 Azul - picture is generic Soviet mortar, German is eg 13168 or 13170

044 12cm GrW42 Azul - picture is generic (postwar?) mortar, German is 13172. Same for unit 281.

046 Amet. MG42 Azul - picture is LMG instead of MMG, proper is 13111. Same for unit 278

(051-053, 346 Infanteria Azul - a minor issue, but a picture are German FJg with their specific helmets)

056 Kl PzBef Wg - I've proposed a photo of a Spanish one - they were significant for they were the earliest series, without a cupola. Same for unit 283.

062 Bt 17cm Azul - proper pic is 13081 (current is Soviet 152mm)

093,94 CL de Inf M17m.. - I've attached photos of Spanish FT 17

195 Esc de F.Amet - picture of Hotchkiss M1922 LMG is 27077, now it is Benet-Mercier. Same for 354.

(197 Esc de F.Amet - they could be given a photo of Breda LMG 16090 or 27074)

215 Fusile AT - proper pic of Pzb-39 is 070 (now it's Solothurn)

222 Fusile AT - proper pic of T-Gewehr is 25583 (now it's Solothurn)

271 AmetralladoraAA - better picture of German AAMG is 19679. Same for unit 282.

284... 307 Camion Blindado - picture in fact shows vehicles with anarchist FAI inscription I've attached a picture of typical nationalist Ferrol cars.

288 CB Bilbao M 32 - I've attached a correct picture (as Republican 454 CB Bilbao M 32 above)

294, 304 Trubria M 37 - it wasn't Trubia at all, but it is known as CCI M.1937 or C.C.I. Tipo 1937 (Carro de Combate de Infanteria). (eg. http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/tanks/s...i_tipo1937.htm )

295 and so on - CL de Inf T-26B - picture should be M.33 instead of M.39. 18083 shows a tank with nationalist markings.

303 CL de Inf Pz IB - better picture of Spanish tank is Pm30311, or I've attached another one.

(350 Paracaidista - the unit has no LMG, while the picture is one soldier with MG-42)

(359 Escuadra AT - maybe a picture should be 296 Solothurn?)

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

284... 307 Camion Blindado - picture in fact shows vehicles with anarchist FAI inscription I've attached a picture of typical nationalist Ferrol cars.

BTW, this picture 19708 might be used for units 441 or 442 in Republican OOB, which share the same picture.

Back to nationalist Spain:


442 CTV 6.5mm Fiat - a photo is Breda MMG - I'm attaching a proper one (the same for Italian OOB)

450, 455, 510 CTV Obice 75L32 - picture is Italian mountain 75/18 gun. Italian OOB uses 36901 for a field gun.
(by the way, a weapon probably shouldn't be modern 75/32 gun Modello 37, as indicated in Republican OOB...)

(470, 471 Canon Inf 37mm
474, 475 Canon Inf 65mm - as units 107,111 in Republican OOB above)

476, 479 Canon Inf 75mm - picture of leIG18 should be eg. 42020

495, 500 10cm K18 Canon - correct icon is twin-trail 60 (used in GE OOB)

498, 504 Obus de 105mm - I've attached a picture of Vickers 105mm

499, 507 Obus de 114mm - same remarks, as Republican 95

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[Pibwl]

It's amazingly difficult to find a good wartime picture of Republican I-16...

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

(393 Potez 25 - much better icon is 483 of R-Z - it was a large aircraft with rectangular wings.

I've noticed, that this icon is indeed described as Potez 25 - but it should have large rectangular wings, without lower wing visible: http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/bww1.../potez25-1.gif