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March 23rd, 2013, 01:26 AM
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Re: infantry in tanks
Up until the M60 series US tanks had "grab bars" for infantry to hold when riding on them (actually did it myself once in the mid 70's).
However the M1 series has no such provision.
As you saw in-game and as many folks have said. Get off before you're fired on else you're mince meat.
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March 23rd, 2013, 07:02 PM
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Re: infantry in tanks
So the rule here is,never ride on tanks unless in the "safe rear area" but they could also be hit by arty although less likely.
Modern warfare desant is not used much anymore.
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March 24th, 2013, 12:52 AM
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Re: infantry in tanks
The MI tanks have no provision carrying infantry and for more than just the obvious reason of the existance and proliferation of modern mechanised IFV's in the US Army order of battle. That jet engine generates so much heat that any soldiers on the back deck would quickly be "Spam on top of the can".
Even an older AFV can generate mucho heat radiating from the vehicle's back deck. On an M551 A-1 Sheridan,we used this principle to cook our food. Not a friendly environment for an infantryman looking to hitchhike.
No separate stove needed at chowtime. 
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March 24th, 2013, 05:35 AM
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Re: infantry in tanks
Dont know about you guys, but I use my tanks to carry infantrymen a lot (for several reasons, there arent enough APCs, their dedicated APCs have been knocked out, a tank is close by and time is of the essence). My grunts dont have it easy with me in command... 
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March 24th, 2013, 08:48 AM
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Re: infantry in tanks
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Originally Posted by Kenny
The MI tanks have no provision carrying infantry and for more than just the obvious reason of the existance and proliferation of modern mechanised IFV's in the US Army order of battle. That jet engine generates so much heat that any soldiers on the back deck would quickly be "Spam on top of the can".
Even an older AFV can generate mucho heat radiating from the vehicle's back deck. On an M551 A-1 Sheridan,we used this principle to cook our food. Not a friendly environment for an infantryman looking to hitchhike.
No separate stove needed at chowtime. 
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If you look through the forums, then you should find the link to the USA field manual item on carrying a squad on an M1 tank that I found. (Basically they all sit on top of the roof as I recall). Stabiliser had to be turned off as well IIRC.
So - official manual item written, but in practice it is not done for various practical reasons. Like having access to more than sufficient APC probably.
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March 24th, 2013, 02:55 PM
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Re: infantry in tanks
I've got no argument with that.
Just like the M551,on top of the turret is the only way to carry a passenger and not have them fried. This practice was highly discouraged back then,and I'd guess pretty well is today.
Short of a dire emergency,modern armies don't need tanks to serve as supplemental APC's.
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March 24th, 2013, 11:13 PM
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Re: infantry in tanks
Just goes to show any real grunt will put up with almost anything in order to ride rather then walk for a while 
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March 25th, 2013, 06:02 AM
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Re: infantry in tanks
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Short of a dire emergency,modern armies don't need tanks to serve as supplemental APC's.
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March 25th, 2013, 04:07 PM
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Re: infantry in tanks
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Quote:
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Short of a dire emergency,modern armies don't need tanks to serve as supplemental APC's.
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Our course not always,as nothing in life is a certainty. There is always going to be the exception to every rule. I don't know the cimcumstances behind this image. Who knows,maybe a roadside IED knocked out the squads vehicle. Yeah,I'd take a lift,too. Maybe their engine over heated,and they didn't want to be stranded in no-mans land? Beats walking in a hostile enviroment AFAIC.
I stand behind my original point.
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