Updated Manual? - Page 5

Squirrelloid · #41 December 22nd, 2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaxWilson

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Originally Posted by Squirrelloid

Except in a lot of cases, the mechanics in the manual are wrong. *snip some valid examples* Want to know why shields are so effective against arrows? The manual is wrong - it would have you believe that blocking an arrow with a shield is the same as blocking a melee blow with a shield. In actuality, a successful shield parry totally negates the arrow.

Actually, that's actually how the manual says the missile equation works. Shield Prot should only come into play in melee, according to the manual.

-Max

That's not how I read "Damage is calculated identically to melee combat."

MaxWilson · #42 December 23rd, 2009, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Squirrelloid

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Originally Posted by MaxWilson

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Originally Posted by Squirrelloid

Except in a lot of cases, the mechanics in the manual are wrong. *snip some valid examples* Want to know why shields are so effective against arrows? The manual is wrong - it would have you believe that blocking an arrow with a shield is the same as blocking a melee blow with a shield. In actuality, a successful shield parry totally negates the arrow.

Actually, that's actually how the manual says the missile equation works. Shield Prot should only come into play in melee, according to the manual.

-Max

That's not how I read "Damage is calculated identically to melee combat."

How do you read the missile formula in that case? It's quite explicit about the shield effect. Can't quote it since I'm AFB but I'm sure you're familiar with it.

-Max

Squirrelloid · #43 December 23rd, 2009, 09:35 AM

The melee defense roll also includes shield parrying. I assumed ranged combat tracked shield hits like melee in order to make damage work the same way, based on the manual text. Shield parries totally negating arrows makes damage calculations rather different.

Sombre · #44 December 23rd, 2009, 11:10 AM

The manual definitely gave a lot of people the wrong impression about missile parry. Given that it currently works in a completely counter intuitive way I'd say it's a failing of the manual to not explicitly state the way it does work.

Hide shield vs boulder anyone?

SciencePro · #45 February 24th, 2010, 07:36 PM

So this thread discussion petered out a couple months ago but i was flipping through old forum posts and saw something that caught my eye:

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Originally Posted by Edi

Illwinter is currently involved with a new project, with Dominions 3 support more of a sideshow, since it works "well enough" by now. That and everything I said above establishes the baseline circumstances surrounding this issue. If anyone has a problem with that, well, it'll stay as their problem until they do something about it on their own.

Has any information been released about this new project?

And I did want to weigh in my 2 cents on the question of whether illwinter should spend time updating the manual. My answer is "no." The community should do that with a wiki and if people have questions they can always use this forum. The devs time, I think, is better spent on a new project for us to enjoy.

Ich's wiki at http://dom3.servegame.com/wiki/ is coming along quite nicely. But it is having technical problems at the moment.