Russian units v4 - Page 7

Marcello · #61 March 8th, 2009, 02:02 PM

It seems that as policy the soviets made their tanks and assault guns capable of at least some indirect fire if possible.
For example T-55s can fire indirect fire missions too; the iraqis were particulalry fond of this tactic.

EDIT
I missed the replies.
I would doubt that SU-122s, JSU-122s etc. were ever set up as dedicated indirect fire assets in the way you mean. They were far from being optimized for such job.

DRG · #62 March 8th, 2009, 02:12 PM

Yes Maxim, I know about the SU-122-54 and yes I know anything with a gun could be used as SP arty but I wanted to know if these were used SPECIFICALLY that way after the war. Apparently not. They have been removed

You might want to make a note to remove them from the SPR OOB as well
Don

Marek_Tucan · #63 March 8th, 2009, 04:45 PM

The closest equivalent to their role as "SP-Arty" would be IMO Z-firing them. After all I doubth that even if used as makeshift arty, they were on arty network, able to shift quickly fire etc. - rather they were fixed in the indirect fire to one specific spot.

DRG · #64 March 8th, 2009, 07:56 PM

New Question

The SPR OOB shows an arty FO in 1977 with 50 TI/GSR rating. That seems just a bit early for a man portable unit.

???

Don

Marek_Tucan · #65 March 9th, 2009, 01:12 AM

AFAIK the PSNR-5 radar (as used on BRM-1 and others) was designed as "dismountable", but not sure about portability - here is the radar in dismounted config, but for use with vehicles it was only the active unit and screens etc. remained in the vehicle - guess the whole complet was really rather heavy for "backpacking" - would need a movement penalty and a dedicated vehicle.

http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/37930

KraMax · #66 March 9th, 2009, 03:13 AM

http://milparade.udm.ru/27/060.htm
http://talks.guns.ru/forum_light_message/42/135080.html
http://www.vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/arhprint/61099

Photo and the small information

The first portable updatings have appeared in 1966 (PSNR-1). For an example American PPS-5 - 46 kg (1967) for service weigh 3 persons are required, PPS-15 weighs only 8 kg (1973). Unfortunately I have not found exact weight PSNR-5 etc. In everyone scout company is at least 1 PSNR-5 or its analogues and a minimum 3 SBR-3 "FARA" or its analogues. GSR SBR-3 "FARA" - weighs about 16 kg - for service 1 person is necessary.

PSNR - Perenosnaya Stantsiya Nazemnoy Razvedki - in English - Portable Station Ground Investigation or portable ground surveillance radar.

SBR - Stantsiya Blizhney Razvedki - in English - Station Near Investigation or short-range surveillance radar

SBR-1 FARA - can couple with weapons (for example 12.7mm NSV or AGS-17)

Sorry for my bad English.