Storm Queen with -2 strength?

[Edi]

Okay, so it's supposed to be permanent. Then the display thing is a bug. But Evening Star just became a whole different level of nasty...

[calmon]

Its sometimes usefull and there is a defence: fire protection. 100% means you can't be weakened!

[johnarryn]

Really? I'm not sure... the Storm Queen who has the -2 strength, presumably from an evening start (though i'm not sure) actually has and had 100% fire protection. Not innate, but through items.

[Endoperez]

Bone Glaives of LA Atlantis sacreds have special "Additional Weakness", which is also listed as Strength Drain.

Weapons Leeching Darkness (secondary of Shadow Brand), Steal Strength, Theft of Strength as well and one of the two weapons called "Weakness" also drain strength. The second "Weakness" is part of Evening Star's effect.

Abomination of Desolation, Eater of the Dead and Unfettered, Hamadryad, Shade, Shade Lord, Thing of Many Eyes, Vastness and Wraith Senator and LA Atlantis Arssartut and the Kivigtok hero have some sort of strength-draining weapon.



EDIT:

calmon said:
Its sometimes usefull and there is a defence: fire protection. 100% means you can't be weakened!

Actually, Evening Star has secondary effect Fire and Weakness, which has secondary effect Weakness. The First deals fire damage, the second one drains strength.

And before someone asks, at least Arssartut do drain strength permanently, so I presume all strength drain is permanent. Are there any strength-draining spells?

[johnarryn]

Hm. Well, I took over from another player, but as far as I can tell he only used the Air Queen against Abysia. They have a moloch pretender with a smasher equipped, and lots of ABysian fire mages... I don't believe any of the above are possibilities, but again I wasn't in the game the whole time, who knows what happened.

[calmon]

johnarryn said:
Really? I'm not sure... the Storm Queen who has the -2 strength, presumably from an evening start (though i'm not sure) actually has and had 100% fire protection. Not innate, but through items.

Yes, i did some tests in times i looked for good anti SC killers and fire protection helped against this weapon. It also correlates with Edi's DB. The effect "Fire and Weakness" is marked as an fire effect.

edit: i'm so slow

[johnarryn]

Interesting. So either she's been weakened through some other effect or didn't have the fire items at the time.

[Endoperez]

Well, Fire and Weakness has a secondary effect of its own, called Weakness. The first secondary deals fire damage, the second deals the strength-drain. I think the latter effect is only called when some of the fire damage is dealt.

[Ironhawk]

Dont dispossessed spirits have strength drain as thier attack? Is it permanent too?

[RamsHead]

I am pretty sure that they have an MR negating paralyze attack.