Need ULM's opposite. :-)

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jaif said:
Oh, but not the water races. Me no likey the water. :-)

-Jeff

Have you tried LA Rlyeh though? It's insane fun!

[Lord_Bob]

Shinuyama has the mightiest army and mages I have ever seen.

They have fully armoured stealth units.
They have stealth mages.
They have assassins.

They have a mage with Fire, Earth, and Death. And it's a demon so all the path craziness doesn't make it die of old age.

When used properly, Diplomacy is the only defense.

[jaif]

Thanks all. Shinu looks like what I'm asking for - very, very different from ULM.

On a tangent, the reason I don't like the water races is not due to the individuals, but flavor and game-flow. For flavor, I personally like my seas empty, with ships sailing over them, because I like sailing ships (Master and Commander, anybody?<g>). For game-flow, I think water races encourage turtles, which just slows down the game.

I know that a lot of this game is written around walking around on the bottom of the ocean, but for my SP games I prefer to leave that part out.

-Jeff