Air Cobras

[thatguy96]

Dimitry said:
2 thatguy96

Thanks for info, but Internet links would be better.
As for me, I have books on the subject too - but as you can see I use only internet sources. So anyone can check them.

Anyone can check them, but they're rarely right. I prefer to stick to published print resources for fact checking, especially of internet sources.

[Mobhack]

Well, I can be mistaken but the principles of IR jammers (chaffs, flares, some decoys etc.) for land and air units are mostly the same.
So here's the Mobhack's Help quotation:
".....A value of 1 in this case is 1 shot of Arena active anti ATGM countermeasures, 2 is 2. 3 is 1 shot of Visual and Infrared Screening Smoke (VIRSS) which ejects anti TI smoke, possibly linked to an IR Jammer as well...."
I repeat, I can be mistaken, but it seems to be right way for aircraft/helicopter IR jammer's estimation in EW points.
And BTW - Could you clarify for me the criteria of in-game EW estimation? What is it based on?

I know what the Mobhack help states, since I wrote the help for my editor. So - please read the complete paragraph from the help file, with the the important bit being highlighted in bold:

EW - Electronic Warfare value. Mainly used for AA vs aircraft capability. For non flak on map units which are vehicles, the field is used for special countermeasures devices. A value of 1 in this case is 1 shot of Arena active anti ATGM countermeasures, 2 is 2. 3 is 1 shot of Visual and Infrared Screening Smoke (VIRSS) which ejects anti TI smoke, possibly linked to an IR Jammer as well. 4 is 2 VIRSS shots. This field changes colour and displays a note when VIRSS or Arena are valid.

So as I said in the post you replied to, an EW number is simply a number where a 1 is better than a 2, in the case where the EW is being used for its normal usage. That is as a defensive AAA value (on planes) or as an offensive item (flak or AAA). Not as a special usage for land units anti-ATGM (or artillery observer fire control which is another dual use of the EW field).

Try looking at an MBT with a 3 or 4 in the EW field in Mobhack - the field is highlighted in blue text and a text string for VIRSS is displayed. A helicopter or a SAM or a plane does not have any such highlighting since it is not a special case usage of the EW field for non-AAA use.

Cheers
Andy

[Dimitry]

Mobhack said:

So as I said in the post you replied to, an EW number is simply a number where a 1 is better than a 2, in the case where the EW is being used for its normal usage.

And what about those F117 with EW 20? As far as I can see here EW indicates the stealth technology.

Mobhack said:
Try looking at an MBT with a 3 or 4 in the EW field in Mobhack - the field is highlighted in blue text and a text string for VIRSS is displayed. A helicopter or a SAM or a plane does not have any such highlighting since it is not a special case usage of the EW field for non-AAA use.

Cheers
Andy

In that case how do you decide what amount of EW points are to be given to each air unit? For example, why does B-52 have EW of 10 - not 8 or 6?
What are yours criterias of in-game EW estimation? What is it based on?
BTW - why USA/NATO tends to have better EW numbers than the Soviet ones?

[Dimitry]

thatguy96 said:
Anyone can check them, but they're rarely right. I prefer to stick to published print resources for fact checking

So I can stick to russian print resources and that will be considered as an argument?

[thatguy96]

Its happened before around here, I really don't see what the problem is. Print sources have been called upon many times around here, including those in languages other than English.

[Dimitry]

Its happened before around here, I really don't see what the problem is.

Thank you, I'm really glad to hear that! I hope that all the others on this forum share your opinion.

[narwan]

Not all printed sources are the same quality, just like not all internet sources are the same quality. And that's the ultimate point, the quality of a source.