German Biased?

[Smersh]

sounds like problems from the other tread about casualties at 50m, and fighting in built up terrian.

[narwan]

Well Charles, that also depends on how you move. Move just 1 hex per turn with infantry and your sneaking. Move more than 1 hex and you're not. Your chances of getting spotted rise drastically. And you do have to sneak all the way to your target, at least the part that MAY be under enemy observation. Get spotted once along the way and you'll stay spotted.

Narwan

[Charles22]

Yeah, somehow I got it mixed up.

[Charles22]

Oh yeah, I kind of forgot about that, but it seems in thick woods (realizing now this is the wrong thread) that they always react even if it is just a move of one hex. Maybe I just haven't been enough in that specific situation to know the precise deal in this version yet.

[Charles22]

No, sorry, I think that was for this thread, as I wasn't talking to PatG in that one, and though it's related I couldn't find anything that it looked like I was responding to there. I was repsonding to PatG's last response here it would appear.

[PatG]

Charles22 said:
Well sure, but I'm playing primarily from the German POV no matter what side I play and the Chinese are WAY bad in that department.

Ah - We're comparing apples and oranges then.

Heck, what infantry isn't good in jungles against AFV's? I gave Japan that concession by mention of the ol' satchel charges on the the back routine (but I don't believe in fighting that way - suicide). It's just that I don't really consider that warfare, and really confined quarters where the Chinese or Japanese might hold their own against tanks or combined arms, though it does happen in warfare, is just a bore to me, because any ol' schmo can do it. <snip>

Interesting - I have come to find sniping T-34's with 88s and long 75s something of a bore because any ol' schmo can do that too.

I guess all this discussion proves is the excellence of the SP series and the work the developers have put into it - we can both schmo along happily.

[Charles22]

What I meant about German POV, is that I'm trying to eliminate units in most cases as the furtherest distance possible, such that fighting in jungle conditions would allow very little if any of that. I have had some excellent games, though, when I campaigned some as the USSR and ran into Finnish hordes attacks. The only thing bad about it (it wasn't this version) was that I had the hisghest losses I may had ever had in a battle, about half of the units.

BTW, when I say 'any ol'schmo' I'm referring that close-quarter fighting brings out hits at such a frequent rate that even the nations with the shoddiest equipment don't have too much trouble being a major nuisance. It's the distance fighting of 15+ hex fighting (excepting infantry) that brings up the difference in those with poor or excellent equipment.

[groszdix]

Smerch and others,

Re the "German bias" and the issue of reference material from which to work: One way I use to get around this is to search for history websites from other (non-US) countries. I have found several from Finland and Poland, for example, that have info on battles and are in English. Another way to produce scenarios that aren't German-centric is to find tactical or operational maps that indicate the forces involved. WHile these won't give you the particulars of the battles, you will at least be able to create a rough starting point. There are just thousands of such maps available with a little Google-ing. Try the "Armchair General"'s site for starters (http://rkkaww2.armchairgeneral.com/maps.htm)

[Smersh]

that is a great site. I had completely forgot about it.

I'm going to repost it on the soviet campigns thread, to have a central location.