I have never won a sp game...

[High_Priest_Naresh]

dont be so hard on your self! anyway your going to be on my team! no one laugh!

[Endoperez]

That general strategy might work. You just have to come up with a way to start conquering provinces before you get to Conjuration 7 and Lamias. I think Carrion Woods can conquer provinces even without a combat pretender, especially with high-level nature blessing. You took expensive magic, and received a good blessing, so you could as well use it! (before the population of your capital withers away and you cannot recruit any more living units)

You might also want to use more cheaper mages instead of fewer good ones for research, as magic scale gives more benefit to more mages. You should also search all your conquered provinces for nature sites, to get more gems and researchers.

[shovah]

Endoperez said:
That general strategy might work. You just have to come up with a way to start conquering provinces before you get to Conjuration 7 and Lamias. I think Carrion Woods can conquer provinces even without a combat pretender, especially with high-level nature blessing. You took expensive magic, and received a good blessing, so you could as well use it! (before the population of your capital withers away and you cannot recruit any more living units)

You might also want to use more cheaper mages instead of fewer good ones for research, as magic scale gives more benefit to more mages. You should also search all your conquered provinces for nature sites, to get more gems and researchers.

i did conquer a bit with my carrion elephants but most of my focus was on the lamias, and the good thing about the carrion lords is they are nature 3 and can help with lamias (thought they were conjuration 6 though)

[Endoperez]

Might well be. I haven't used them in a long time. I might have to try, though... That did sound like an interesting strategy.

[shovah]

5 gems for 13 creatures that have lifedrain+regen+come back as serpents when killed seems more than 'interesting'

[High_Priest_Naresh]

playing a game against the comp. I am pangea carrion woods
started in quite a good place built a fort or two in strateigic places (like choke points or river crossings)
and was getting about 30 nature and 20 death a turn when I started with my 50 researchers spread out over 3 provinces to cast hundreds of v/o and with the ivy crown I was getting about.... 70-85 vine ogres a turn gave them to that ettin manikin (or whatever) gave him
heart finder sword
whip of command
rod of the leper king
horned helmet
horror helm
boots of long strides
wolf pelt?
ring of regen
gave him 90 saggitarius/ mino taur manikins
30 vine ogres
and make him a prophet!

teamed him up with a carrion centaur
and gave him 15 of those wooden construct thingies
and a horde of mandragora+other undead
and sent them on a rampage
go to about the oak of all ages waited 1 turn so that build up a small defense there and replenish my lost troops
next turn?
ulm has built a castle in oak of all ages defended by about 100 black plate infantries 50 trolls 4 troll kings
30 mech. men and 5 golems! thats even before I saw how many other commanders there were there(harpy sout )
I was feeling bad in just one turn he had built a castle, and raised a huge defense and no one was close enough to help me reinforce my troops or position
well I won in the end lost 8 v/o 2 lumber constructs and 50 undead thingies most of his army ran away though! I killed about quater of his army then he pegged it!

then his army went on a killing spree and I was alwys one porvince behind them until...
they stopped for a turn to be continued!

[shovah]

gj, vine ogre spam is fun to try with kings (but crowns work aswell)

[PDF]

How many turns did all that take ? I suppose 60+.. Vs AI it looks like total overkill to me

[Wyatt Hebert]

The Naga/Lamia strategy is absolutely brutal, but it does have a _few_ problems... nothing insurmountable, though. The beautiful thing is that the Regeneration is a percentage, I believe, so Gift of Health is an absolute must for these... they regenerate all the damage they typically take every turn...

It's not my favorite strategy, but it's definitely one of those that is rather easy to win with. Any of the auto-generating unit themes (Ashen Empire, Soul Gate, and Carrion Woods) tend to be easy as well.

And don't forget, people, that Lamia Queens are, imo, one of the better conjurable researchers. And they get good paths, and if you are lucky it won't take much to put up Haunted Forest... that puts paid on Ulm at the very least.

Wyatt

[High_Priest_Naresh]

33 turns... turn 35 now