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Old February 23rd, 2005, 04:40 PM
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Default Re: Master Enslave MR roll

There is no damage involved when casting a spell over 200 fatigue; my Cyclops at least whistled, despite casting a 700-fatigue spell. I believe you are supposed to get damage only if you get additional fatigue afterwards, which would require a spell creating fatigue.
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 05:35 PM
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There is no damage involved when casting a spell over 200 fatigue; my Cyclops at least whistled, despite casting a 700-fatigue spell. I believe you are supposed to get damage only if you get additional fatigue afterwards, which would require a spell creating fatigue.
Or sleep vines, lifedrain, etc., and communicants getting pushed over 200.
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 06:14 PM

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unlucky this time and the others... when the oracle converted several leaders having 20 and more MR... This is not the first time you are extremely lucky in fact, this is why I start to wonder if something is not amiss.

But it can be a stroke of very bad luck.
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Old February 23rd, 2005, 06:25 PM

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Sunray: 200 is max fatigue. When you have 200 you take damage next time you get fatigue.
Interesting. I've always thought that scripted spells > 200 fat are rejected by the AI.

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Is base penetration 4 for easy resist? I though it was like 7 or so.
Ach, you're right, I was still using the dom1 manual. In dom2 it is 7, not 4.

It's clearer now. 8 (base 7 +1 for two extra levels) vs 11 (MR of spirits) = 20% chance (27% if the first pearl is use to get 1 extra level). 8 vs 15 (dryads) = 5% (or 7% for the 1st gem).

Against Pocus, the level 12 Oracle had thus a penetration of 7 (base) + 4 (items) + 4 (8 levels above minimum, using 12 gems) = 15, versus a MR of 23 it gives 3,5% chance to enslave (5% if the first pearl = +1). Not bad.

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Old February 23rd, 2005, 06:56 PM
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Might want to run a test again 100 targets with MR 23, just to get an empirical estimate of the odds ...

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Old February 24th, 2005, 05:53 PM

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following the discussion, I got a new turn in this very interesting pbem. And the result is even more impressive (I must be totally and uterly unlucky). This time its a ivy king without any items succeeded in charming my arch devil (MR 26...).
The probability is 1.22 % if I calculate right.
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