MOO2 vs SEIV - Page 2

Lucanos · #11 June 21st, 2001, 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by Noble713:
*cough* 3d Acceleration *cough*

Granted, 3d games require more impressive software (snip)
...SFC (snip)
...and SFC2, I'm thoroughly convinced that 3d is the way to go.

*cough* 3D? *cough* SFC? *cough*

*cough*

*cough*

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CaptSpoogy · #12 June 21st, 2001, 03:03 AM

I bought M002 Last year from the discount bin and played it quite often - for awhile. I ended up getting bored at the lack of customibility - which is why I feel SE IV is a better game - and plus you can draw your own ships!

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Baron Munchausen · #13 June 21st, 2001, 03:45 AM

I'm afraid I do not agree that 3D 'acceleration' is a step above 3D pre-rendered graphics. It's just a way to sell more hardware, I think. Rarely has any game done anything creative with real-time rendered graphics. If they would just render the <bleep>ing pictures and put them on the CD you could play these games on much less expensive computers. So, 24-bit graphics is the best things will get. The human eye cannot detect all of the colors possible with 24-bits, let alone those in higher modes. We just need programs and graphical artists to produce high-quality images and SE can be as amazing as any 'real time' rendered game. The current default images are decent -- for 16 bit color! -- but not really close to the possibilities of 24-bit color.

Lucanos · #14 June 21st, 2001, 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by Baron Munchausen:
It's just a way to sell more hardware, I think. Rarely has any game done anything creative with real-time rendered graphics.

You said it.

Most of the 3D games out there are just crap - like the new X-COM game for instance.

I mean - SEIV in 3D would be pretty cool - as long as it wouldn't f**k up the game (*=my respect for all you friggin moralists out there

).

Magnum357 · #15 June 21st, 2001, 05:42 AM

Ok, here is my vote.

MOO2 SEIV
Graphics 3 5
Tactical AI 3 4
Strategic AI 5 3
Customization 1 5
Tac Battles 2 5
Epicness 3 5
Races 4 5
Diplomacy 4 5
TOTAL AVG 3.125 vs. 4.625

I would have given a better Rating for MOOII for Customization if I hadn't discovered SE3 about 3 years later. Right now, I would say SE4 is probably the most customable game in existance, at least to my knowlege. I was never impressed about MOOII's Tac AI. Heck, what did it matter, their wasn't all that many options to begin with for different stategies anyway. Strategic was different. The AI in MOOII was pretty sharp an sort of knew you weak spots to hit it if wanted to. I don't think SE4 has that. Customization, heck! SE4 hands down, the winner! Epicness... eh... I suppose SE4 would win that since it is sooooo Multiplayer friendly. As long as you have an imaginative group of friends to play with SE4 with, the roleplaying part of SE4 is almost endless. Races, Both games had some interesting and unique races to its games. Diplomacy, I would have to say SE4 wins desisivly only if played in Multiplayer. Like I said before, you are only limited with this option by the limitation of your friends playing against you.

Overall, SE4 wins in my vote, but MOOII as an average game is not all that bad compared to some games I have seen out their.

Phoenix-D · #16 June 21st, 2001, 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by Lucanos:
You said it.

Most of the 3D games out there are just crap - like the new X-COM game for instance.

That would be what is known as a "shameless cash in".

Doesn't have anything to do with X-COM, really.

Phoenix-D

Spanglemaker · #17 June 21st, 2001, 11:21 AM

Thanks for the hints :-)

One of the things I noticed about SEIV, is the way planets and ships are constructed in a similar way to a really old game- The Logic Factory's Ascendancy. SEIV is far superior to that game, but it shares a small niche in my games collection.
I'm looking forward to receiving the full SEIV.

Lucanos · #18 June 21st, 2001, 02:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
That would be what is known as a "shameless cash in".
Doesn't have anything to do with X-COM, really.

Phoenix-D

tell me about it

capnq · #19 June 21st, 2001, 10:02 PM

My three-year-old system's graphics card doesn't give me an option of 24-bit color; it jumps from 16-bit to 32-bit. (In fact, I'd never even heard of 24-bit before I got SE IV.)

I agree with Baron Munchausen that 3D acceleration is a ploy to sell hardware. I don't have a 3D card on my system, which means that I cannot play one of the games my sister gave my for Christmas. I'd like to upgrade to a new system, but I've been trying to pay down my credits cards first.

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