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Old July 8th, 2004, 04:56 AM

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Default Okay.... are undead whordes unstoppable?

I am playing the demo and after several pathetic failures(as I learn to play and enjoy myself)....

I am playing the lizard guys c'isht(sp?) I dont remember how to spell em offhand.....

My undead hordes are...... completley rolling over EVERYTHING they come across. Every time I conquer a new province I plop down a city with my mundane troops(a relativley small number), every second provence I crank out costliest lizard priest/necromancer(I forgot its name... sorry heh still new), in a few turns he can crank out EIGHTY TO NINTEY ghouls.... with such utterly MASSIVE numbers I can take enormeous casualties and still win every battle because they cost me nothing but a little time to make.

Throw my utterly MASSIVE ghoul hordes to the front and flank them with my small number of conventional troops(which are costlier melee ones and all VERY experienced at this point.... none of them have ever died, ghouls taking all the hits) who take out their mages and commanders.... all the while my priest-mages are tossing out the necromancy spells.... commanders die, they flee, ghoul hordes run and chop them as my elite troops also slice up the enemy as they run.....

Is there an effective way to stop this? Enemey priests dont seem very effective when you have upwards of 250 ghouls in a battle... calvalry are also ineffective, just cant stop the numbers and you can effectivley re-coup ANY losses within two turns....
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Old July 8th, 2004, 05:00 AM

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Default Re: Okay.... are undead whordes unstoppable?

That's because you're playing against the AI. It's notoriously inept at handling undead. Several priests with support can banish a horde in no time at all.
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Old July 8th, 2004, 05:03 AM

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Default Re: Okay.... are undead whordes unstoppable?

The AI has an incredibly tough time dealing with masses of undead so when players use them against the AI they tend to do extremely well. It is quite possible to stop them if you know how, the AI just doesnt. Enough priests, the right items, a good spell or two and undead go down extremely easily.

Do a search for undead or Ermor and you'll find all the strategies described by persons more experienced with them than i am.
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How does banishing undead work?
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Old July 8th, 2004, 05:13 AM

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Default Re: Okay.... are undead whordes unstoppable?

Mmmm. Undead hordes. Crunchy. The undead suffer from several unfortunate weaknesses, the first and foremost of which is their weakness to point-blank annihilation. They also tend to be flammable, and conduct electricity.
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Default Re: Okay.... are undead whordes unstoppable?

Playing a race which creates the undead like Ermor or a theme from C'Tis is good for a beginner.
If you are looking for a challenge play a game where the computer opponents are Ermor, Ryleh, Jotunheim and Ulm.
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Default Re: Okay.... are undead whordes unstoppable?

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How does banishing undead work?
All priests (holy commanders) have the spell "banishment", which is effective against undead troops.

There are many other spells which are very effective against the undead (e.g. dust to dust, holy pyre, etc.).

Undead troops are also easily hurt by flaming arrows and similar support-type booster spells which the AI cannot, seemingly, cast (why??).

Undead hordes are, in other words, not nearly unstoppable.
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