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March 26th, 2004, 04:38 PM
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Independent SCs and Magic Loot
Turn two of a SP game on the Aran map, I notice one of the neighboring provinces is full of undead. Great, says I - I'll just send in a priest (3), a prophet Prince General, and a Celestial Master, along with the entire T'ien C'hi army. I'll set 3 commanders to banish undead, it'll be an easy conquest, with heroes in the Hall of Fame.
Three archers alone returned from that ill-fated expedition, reporting undead behemoths, an undead knight of some sort, and a huge mummy towering over the field. The loss of my army and my noble commanders (and one eunuch) was a grievous blow, tempered by the knowledge that the majority of the undead hordes had been cast down into dust.
Swiftly rebuilding the army, and persuading another Master of Ceremonies and Celestial Master to enlist in my cause, I myself took the field with my troops. Yet, once again was my army repulsed, though this time their leadership was more judicious and regrouped at my citadel.
Nought was left of the horde save their leaders after this assault, and most mighty indeed were they : A grand Mummy of Ptah, weaponed and attired well with puissant magics: sword, shield, helm, dragon armor, and more. Even his lieutenant was equipped with magic sword and armor.
It took three more assaults, each time recruiting more Celestial Masters, each time researching stronger magics to use against them; finally we succeeded in breaking even the master of Ptah's will and conquered.
To discover naught but the Desert of Ptah - a sad and miserly trophy to show for a year and a half of combat. The mummy's magical accoutrements had disappeared into the sands.
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From reading other Posts, I'd gotten the impression that when you nailed a commander who was carrying magic items, that you looted the magic from the corpses of the fallen. (Or at least that there was a chance of this.)
With at least 8 magic items on the two independent commanders (one with honest SC status and one SC-lite), I would have expected to retrieve -something- from their corpses; indeed, the (greedy) expectation of magic loot fueled my monomaniacal pursuit of the undead.
Is it that the mummy routed and wasn't out-right destroyed? Or is there only a small chance of retrieving the commander's magic and equipment after the battles?
[ It was rather cool to come across this, though - a regular SP game on the stock Aran map, and to find such an unusual province with an independent SC. (Almost 200 HPs, 20 armor, 30 MR - banishment was _not_ getting through.) ]
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March 26th, 2004, 05:05 PM
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Re: Independent SCs and Magic Loot
You have a decent chance to get the stuff, you just happened to be (very) unlucky. Well, at least you are one experience richer  .
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March 26th, 2004, 08:39 PM
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Re: Independent SCs and Magic Loot
I have a feeling that it did make a difference that the mummy routed rather than got destroyed. Even if you kill him, there is only a chance that you'll find his items, not a certainty. Some powerful magic items, and cursed items, have a greater chance of being found than run-of-the mill magic items.
One other point to keep in mind is that you don't want to employ mercenaries when you have an expectation of magical loot - the mercenary may find the item, and if he does, he'll refuse to give it up. I learned that one the hard way 
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March 26th, 2004, 09:52 PM
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Re: Independent SCs and Magic Loot
You do need to kill the enemy with the items to have a chance to get them for yourself. The chance is per-item and no guarantee, but with so many, you almost surely would've got a few if he hadn't got away.
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March 26th, 2004, 10:59 PM
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Re: Independent SCs and Magic Loot
Ouch. If that was Katafagus -- I've never met the dude, but from the description it might have been him -- the helm he has is an unforgeable artifact that now you won't be able to get short of a Wish.
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March 26th, 2004, 11:35 PM
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General
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Re: Independent SCs and Magic Loot
No, it was not Katafagus. It was Ptah, the divine mummy. He has his own unique headwear.
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