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January 10th, 2004, 05:15 AM
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Re: The most complex game?
They are extremely fun, if you are a detail maniac, like I am. I think the most total fun I've had with computer games is with the Tigers on the Prowl series, which has merely functional MS-DOS graphics, sound that is best turned off, a steep learning curve and a large "find out what a PSW231/7 is yourself" element. It was so well done though, that it made me interested in finding out what a PSW231/7 was! I'm not alone either - there were many very satisfied fans of the series, and we had some great times playing the game via PBEM. Once you get into such a game that is well done, there can be a lot more to enjoy than in a simpler game, for players who are interested.
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January 10th, 2004, 06:38 AM
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Re: The most complex game?
@PVK...
Don't get me wrong, i have every Talon Soft, HPS, SSI, SSG etc... game there is and spent most of my childhood playing Avalon Hill boardgames. I built every WW2 model i could get my hands on and have a vast understanding of the art of complex warfare  . But a "few" have too much minutia for me is all eg: Point of Attack 2 and Decisive Action.
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January 11th, 2004, 12:12 AM
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Re: The most complex game?
Sure. Different players have different tastes. Details also don't necessarily make a good game. Some games also take some time to appreciate. I was totally confused and didn't enjoy my first game and a half of Tigers on the Prowl, but then I caught on, and got to the point where I could appreciate how well done the many different factors were, and that kept me very entertained for many years. It did also ruin my interest in less-detailed WW2 tactical games, though. When I try to play the Battleground series, or Steel Panthers, or when I look at the results of a strafing run in IL-2 Sturmovik, I can't help but groan and lose interest. Kind of like a Dominions fan thinking about playing Age of Wonders. Though, even that is an oversimplification - I know there are players who enjoy both, and/or who enjoy both TOP and SP, etc. Every player seems to have a unique set of tastes and sensitivities.
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January 11th, 2004, 01:57 AM
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Re: The most complex game?
I have to say that Avalon Hill's boardgame "magic realm" has topped my most complex game list. it took me years to learn it and sadly, i am the only one that i have ever met that has played it. glad it had a solo varient.
[ January 10, 2004, 23:57: Message edited by: mercurycs ]
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January 11th, 2004, 06:18 AM
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Re: The most complex game?
Too bad you're in the US, then.
We play it once every two months, according to the season spirits.
Love the second edition of Magic Realm...
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January 12th, 2004, 02:36 AM
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Re: The most complex game?
Not only did I play it but I began to mod it. That was just as I was beginning to get into computers and was probably one of the main things on my mind as I considered the subject of programming and "if I did then what would I do?". It struck me as a game that just SCREAMED program me! A board game built around Random Map Generation. The game was great, it was only the setup and putting away that was a drawback. Its still high on my list of "want to be a game programmer? Play this" (amoung others)
Lately I fed google with "magic realm" and boardgame. I was intrigued at how many active sites came up for it.
[ January 11, 2004, 12:38: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]
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