Order of weapons fire / damage?

[Yef]

Originally posted by alarikf:


....but I recently had a combat where I was the defender and it really looked like none of my guys fired first, and, well, I lost my entire fleet (and it looks like I am going down in flames becuase of it)...

Dam, why that never happens to me?
I always win, mostly because the AI can't put together a fleet as big as mine, so I take on their fleets at piece meal.
I would be sooo cool to lose to the AI.

Aside from attacking Homeworlds, all other fights are way too easy. When it comes to a war of attrition the AI can't compete.

The only thing the AI managed to do quite well its sabotages, and that only until I found out the tactic of colonizing a system with at least 2 breathable planets with low resource output and devoting it to Intelligence, no matter how bad my research situation.

[ March 23, 2004, 20:49: Message edited by: Yef ]

[Atrocities]

you just have to love the FAQ.

[AMF]

Bah! It was to another player that I suffered this. The AI would *never* get me in the position I'm in in this game...(ie: really really screwed)

And, well, I did see that answer in the FAQ, but, gosh, I would swear that although I *was* the defender, my guys still didn't fire first. Maybe it's something with my strategies...

Originally posted by Yef:

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Originally posted by alarikf:


....but I recently had a combat where I was the defender and it really looked like none of my guys fired first, and, well, I lost my entire fleet (and it looks like I am going down in flames becuase of it)...

Dam, why that never happens to me?
I always win, mostly because the AI can't put together a fleet as big as mine, so I take on their fleets at piece meal.
I would be sooo cool to lose to the AI.

Aside from attacking Homeworlds, all other fights are way too easy. When it comes to a war of attrition the AI can't compete.

The only thing the AI managed to do quite well its sabotages, and that only until I found out the tactic of colonizing a system with at least 2 breathable planets with low resource output and devoting it to Intelligence, no matter how bad my research situation.

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[Fyron]

Being defender means you get to go first. But, you might still end up firing after the attacker, depending on the distance between the ships, speed, range, etc.

[Grandpa Kim]

6.8.4.1 ... If A attacks both B and C in a sector, then the movement order could be B, C, A or it could be C, B, A.

Although you would naturally assume A, B and C are three different empires, I have come to believe that 3 different fleets are all you need. So, if he came in with two fleets, luck of the draw could easily give him first shot. I don't know if this is true, but I'm getting that feeling from my own experiences.

[atari_eric]

Originally posted by alarikf:
Bah! It was to another player that I suffered this. The AI would *never* get me in the position I'm in in this game...(ie: really really screwed)

And, well, I did see that answer in the FAQ, but, gosh, I would swear that although I *was* the defender, my guys still didn't fire first. Maybe it's something with my strategies...

Is this your gruelling defeat before the awesome weaponry of the Xetan Empire you're refering to?

Seriously, if so, I woudln't say you're really screwed - if I had not won that battle, I would have lost the war - I would not have had enough production to build sufficient hardware to even slow you down.

[Pablo]

In one game against the religious player I had a fully trained fleet of ~200 dreadnoughts 2 squares from the warp point and my enemy had ~80 talisman baseships 4 squares from the warp point. The plan was to warp (get closer in combat) and get the first shot as a defender fleet. Next turn I lost the entire fleet when the enemy lost ~10 ships. I didn't even look at the movement log as it was obvious that he warped first and got the first shot. Oh well...