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Old February 7th, 2001, 10:56 PM

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Default Mines vs Shields and Armor

Did some research on mines and found some interesting things out. Enjoy.

1. Do shields work against mines?
Nope. Just pretend your ships only raise their shields for combat. Mines, being unexpected, catch them with their pants down, so to speak.

2. Not even if I have shields regeneration components?
Nope, not even then.

3. Um, what does that mean for Crystalline Armor?
Bad things, actually. CA is just 150 damage resistant armor to mines. It has no special properties.

4. Does Organic Armor heal after mines?
Nope. Not after individual mines and not after the whole mine field.

5. So, how do mines deal damage?
Actually, it's kinda scary. See, each warhead (*not* each mine) deals its damage and then any extra damage to the ship is cleared! That's right, 100 dmg mine warheads CANNOT hurt a ship with scatter, crystalline or organic armor, since it takes 150 damage to kill those components!

This is one reason why larger mines aren't really that great. Who cares if you have 100 warheads per mine, if each individual one cannot hurt the ship. Personally, I think this should be changed.

To give an example, the first level Warhead deals 100 damage. A small mine can fit two. Armor III can absorb 40 damage. A small mine with two warhead I's only kills 4 Armor III components, not five. Each warhead kills two with 40 dmg each and the Last 20 is lost .
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Old February 7th, 2001, 11:39 PM

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Default Re: Mines vs Shields and Armor

Goodness, Zanthis!
You are an investigator aren't you. You are really getting to the gutts of the damage systems. I think you may be the hero of the century if all your data proves correct and MM fixes all the shortcomings. Keep it up and thanks!

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Old February 7th, 2001, 11:55 PM

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Default Re: Mines vs Shields and Armor

Ah, so I was right to always research explosive warheads 3 before going for mines.

(300 damage for mine warhead IIIs.)

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Old February 8th, 2001, 02:35 AM

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Default Re: Mines vs Shields and Armor

Zanthis,
This post and your one one damage, shields and armor are VERY useful knowledge. You might want to combine those Posts into an info text document and post up in the mod section. You can update it as you make more discoveries.

Less chance of getting lost up there then here unless you want to bump it up occassionaly.

Nice stuff. Thanks
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Old February 8th, 2001, 02:42 AM

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I agree, post your findings in the mod section. I'm sure people have already told you this, but have you sent your findings to Aaron? Great Work.
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