Human controlled neutral empires

stecal · #1 February 8th, 2003, 06:03 PM

I am trying to add another player to a SE4 Gold 1.84 by having him take over a neutral. We have made all the changes to make in human controlled and turn off AI, but he tells me he cannot move a colony ship out of his home system. Is this a fluke or is the limitation of neutrals to their home system Hard Coded, or just built into the AI scripts?

Ok, It IS hard coded. Darn.

I found my answer here: http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin...=007344#000001

[ February 08, 2003, 16:19: Message edited by: stecal ]

Arkcon · #2 February 8th, 2003, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by stecal:

Ok, It IS hard coded. Darn.

I found my answer here: [url=http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=007344#000001]http://www.shrapnelgames.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=23;t=007344#000001[/ URL]

Yes it's true. But it can be fun if everyone roleplays. He can trade planets, and use intel to capture others. But his ships, whereever they are, will always clear the warp orders.

stecal · #3 February 8th, 2003, 07:07 PM

What about neutral drones? Can they warp to attack distant planets/ships?

Ragnarok · #4 February 8th, 2003, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by stecal:
What about neutral drones? Can they warp to attack distant planets/ships?

No... Anything and everything that a neutral builds stays in the system it was built in. It cannot go out of that system due to it being hard coded in.

Urendi Maleldil · #5 February 8th, 2003, 08:22 PM

I've seen neutrals move ships out of their home system, but only after their home system has taken heavy damage or their homeworld has been terminated. I don't know if it's a bug or what. I do know that those lone ships never make it that far

stecal · #6 February 9th, 2003, 01:08 AM

Are you sure about the drones?

The Neutral_AI_Settings.txt file has these 2 lines that seem to indicate that drones can warp:

Maximum Anti-Ship Drone Target System Distance := 5
Maximum Anti-Planet Drone Target System Distance := 5

capnq · #7 February 9th, 2003, 09:15 PM

I'm not sure, but I think all &ltraceName&gt_AI_Settings.txt files have to include those lines, regardless of whether the race even uses drones.

stecal · #8 February 9th, 2003, 09:30 PM

This might be change to request for the next Version of Space Empires then.

When a (neutral) player is changed from computer Ai to human player the warp limitations are removed. Or have it moved to a yes/no switch in settings.txt

I like to include 1-3 neutral or AI empires in any game I am running to provide for new players or replacement empire for a player who gets knocked out early. This would be a great tool for that.