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May 1st, 2014, 02:50 AM
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Smoke Dischargers, And Fragmentation Grenades Fired From These
I couldn't write the code myself, but do smoke dischargers also fore fragmentation grenades, if loaded with these? The GALIX, and the WWII German NBW may be similar, firing shrapnel for close defence.
The smoke discharger feature in the code could be adjusted to fire grenades I suppose.
Is this possible?
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May 1st, 2014, 03:54 AM
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Re: Smoke Dischargers, And Fragmentation Grenades Fired From These
The Nahverteidigungswaffe (Nvtdgw) weapon slot in later German tank models (WW2) already replicates this. It is essentially a close range anti-personnel weapon (1 hex), though in no way is it connected to the "smoke discharger" function in-game. But it is functioning as intended.
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May 1st, 2014, 05:16 AM
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Re: Smoke Dischargers, And Fragmentation Grenades Fired From These
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Originally Posted by RightDeve
The Nahverteidigungswaffe (Nvtdgw) weapon slot in later German tank models (WW2) already replicates this. It is essentially a close range anti-personnel weapon (1 hex), though in no way is it connected to the "smoke discharger" function in-game. But it is functioning as intended.
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There's also the rear and side hexes these are not fired into on turretless tanks with the Nvtdgw, along with smoke dischargers. Such things should have a range of 0 anyway.
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May 1st, 2014, 06:22 AM
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Re: Smoke Dischargers, And Fragmentation Grenades Fired From These
Why range 0? Do you think they're not thrown by these dischargers? Why would the gunners want to splatter their own vehicle with grenades? Even man-thrown grenade has a range of 1 hex (in reality about 30 meters). If anything should have range 0, then it is explosive devices like mines, IED, and other static boobytraps like that.
Do you really expect that smoke discharger slots cover 360 degrees?
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May 1st, 2014, 06:46 AM
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Re: Smoke Dischargers, And Fragmentation Grenades Fired From These
The GALIX system IS already modelled in the game! As RightDeve points out so is the German Nvtdgw system!
There is no need to re-invent the wheel, nor to combine the functionallity of a defensive system (smoke discharger) and a weapons system (GALIX, etc).
As you have been advised in another of your threads, differing weapon types using the same launcher are usually listed as a different weapon type/line on the unit data (ie gun launched ATGM).
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May 2nd, 2014, 12:30 AM
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Re: Smoke Dischargers, And Fragmentation Grenades Fired From These
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Why range 0? Do you think they're not thrown by these dischargers? Why would the gunners want to splatter their own vehicle with grenades? Even man-thrown grenade has a range of 1 hex (in reality about 30 meters). If anything should have range 0, then it is explosive devices like mines, IED, and other static boobytraps like that.
Do you really expect that smoke discharger slots cover 360 degrees?
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Man-thrown grenades have no effect on most armoured vehicles. The vehicle would be better off shooting grenades of it's own.
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May 2nd, 2014, 02:27 AM
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Re: Smoke Dischargers, And Fragmentation Grenades Fired From These
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Man-thrown grenades have no effect on most armoured vehicles. The vehicle would be better off shooting grenades of it's own.
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hahaha... what's your point?
last night i stumbled upon your previous post in which you essentially refuted your own post as if addressing another person.
don't take this as an offence, but i think you're funny.
edit: it does have effect; suppression, buttoned up, possible external wire damage, what are you thinking?
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May 5th, 2014, 04:14 AM
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Re: Smoke Dischargers, And Fragmentation Grenades Fired From These
Just for general information the weaponized GALIX is only on Sweden's STRV-122A and STRV-122B tanks as again as already posted, there is no evidence to support the weaponized use of the GALIX system by any other country user; I don't know if it is a violation of NATO, EU self defense treaty rules or doctrine of the countries themselves. Sweden I believe and I'm guessing here; is just trying to give itself every advantage it can get to the small army it has. Let's not forget they were one of the first if not the first to develop a system like the STRIX which is a very effective (See videos in Forum or other.) AT mortar round.
In my campaign SWEDEN vs. RUSSIA the GALIX fires out to the adjacent hex and has taken a toll on Russian infantry units that have come upon my tanks unexpectedly. Light casualties, suppression, retreat or a combination of the three depending on the situation. Seems to be working properly and as I expected given the information I submitted.
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May 5th, 2014, 07:58 PM
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Re: Smoke Dischargers, And Fragmentation Grenades Fired From These
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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH
Just for general information the weaponized GALIX is only on Sweden's STRV-122A and STRV-122B tanks as again as already posted,
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Is the French Leclerc no longer fitted with the Galix anti-personnel system or vehicle protection system?
Abraham
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May 5th, 2014, 09:03 PM
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Re: Smoke Dischargers, And Fragmentation Grenades Fired From These
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Originally Posted by shahadi
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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH
Just for general information the weaponized GALIX is only on Sweden's STRV-122A and STRV-122B tanks as again as already posted,
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Is the French Leclerc no longer fitted with the Galix anti-personnel system or vehicle protection system?
Abraham
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I believe the UAE "desert" Leclerc and Italy's Centauro also mount it.
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