Warhammer Dwarfs, discussion/hype thread - Page 5

BandarLover · #41 October 1st, 2009, 08:13 PM

my vote is the unconventional 30 flag. Let's be honest, if a dwarf can carve something from stone that is the route he's gonna take.

Awesome job on the sprites as well. Very excited to see how this one turns out, dwarves are only my most favorite Warhammer (or really ANY fantasy)race, with Greenskins a close second.

rdonj · #42 October 2nd, 2009, 03:52 AM

I'd like to see the unconventional flag work, but I just don't see it happening. It seems like it would look to strange sitting on a province or above a fort. Maybe you should see what it looks like in game before making a final decision though. If you decide to go with the conventional flag it would be nice if you could work the unconventional one into the mod somehow, it's looks quite nice by itself.

Sombre · #43 October 2nd, 2009, 04:11 AM

28 and 29 their axes on the right hand side look backwards to me.

Ballbarian · #44 October 2nd, 2009, 07:28 AM

Looks great!

I vote for the conventional flag, but please include both graphics in case I change my mind later.

Sombre · #45 October 2nd, 2009, 08:34 AM

I think the conventional flag is the way to go, though I think it could use more work.

Swan · #46 October 2nd, 2009, 08:36 AM

Well, to make everyone happy why you don't make the conventional flag as national flag and the unconventional one as a unit with standard bonus?

Sombre · #47 October 2nd, 2009, 08:39 AM

Not a big fan of immobile units like totems, stones etc as anything other than powerful summons/pretenders.

Burnsaber · #48 October 2nd, 2009, 11:08 AM

The conventional one seems to have won. I'll polish it up a bit before the final version.

I was thinking of implementing the ston flag graphic as a special unit, "Ancestor Stone" only accessible as a PD 20 commander, casting some sweet onebattlespell and having nice standard bonus.

Sombre · #49 October 2nd, 2009, 12:00 PM

Oh I just want to add that I think the graphics look great so far and it's very impressive how fast this has all come together. I critique only to improve little things.

Speaking of which - are you going to be doing all the famous dwarf heroes? I can't place any of them with the graphics so far. I liked trying to get relatively close to the models with the heroes for Skaven because there's that extra yay factor about having a digital queek or skrolk model running around. I'd definitely feel the same way about Thorgrim, Alarik, Damsson, Ungrim and co - classic models after all.

Burnsaber · #50 October 2nd, 2009, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sombre

Oh I just want to add that I think the graphics look great so far and it's very impressive how fast this has all come together. I critique only to improve little things.

Yeah, that's why I post these things, to get comments and use them to improve the pics.

The fastness is simply due to me being very excited for this project.

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Originally Posted by Sombre

Speaking of which - are you going to be doing all the famous dwarf heroes? I can't place any of them with the graphics so far. I liked trying to get relatively close to the models with the heroes for Skaven because there's that extra yay factor about having a digital queek or skrolk model running around. I'd definitely feel the same way about Thorgrim, Alarik, Damsson, Ungrim and co - classic models after all.

The heroes a bit problematic. Alarik and Thogrim just overlap too much, besides, Alarik's "thing" in the 6th edition was that he had the book of grudges, but it seems that in 7th edition, Thogrim has the thing. If you remove the Book of Grudges from Alarik, he's just a dwarf king who's too lazy to walk into battle himself. Hence I only have Thogrim in my current hero "line up".

I also likely won't replicate Thogrim like in the graphic, he's a lot like Anvil of Doom in that respect (= too hard for me to draw like the model). I also dislike the palaquin, to me, they are a symbol of decadence not really fitting for dwarfs. My current vision is to have him on large oathstone with a stone table, which will hold the book.

By Ungrim, you mean the Slayer King of Karak Kadrin, right? About him, I just don't know. Why is he wearing armor? What is his backround? (the miniature page isn't too helpful), or to put it simply, who the heck is he? I could add the banner and armour to my graphic and call it this guy, but I'd need to know some lore about Karak Kadrin.

I sort of dislike the "back banners" many of the heroes have, just doesn't feel "dwarvish" to me. That's a pretty big obstacle, since some heroes really only have that to graphically differentiate them from regular units. I tried to hint at Damminson in the current graphic with a metal hand (mechanic hand would be just out of character for my "no-gunpowder" dwarfs). I'll take another stab at the metal hand for the release, to make it stand out more.