Ideas how to improve WinSP MBT/WW2 !

[Suhiir]

Good example of this is the H-19 Chickasaw used by the USMC between 1951-1962.
It was primarily a troop carrier (10 man capacity), but the armed version (2 X M1919 MG's and 2 pods of 2.75" rockets) couldn't carry any troops.
The engine just wasn't powerful enough to carry men and armament.

[Epoletov_SPR]

I understand that it is a lot of work for modification in WinSPMBT, but I offer this idea that transport helicopters with arms could take passengers less.

[thatguy96]

Do you have an example in game that's specifically bugging you? I can't think of an example of a helicopter in game that has an unreasonable carry capacity. Mi-24s can carry a small number of people in addition to a full armament load, as can the Mi-8/17. Helicopters such as armed H-34s or UH-1A/Bs could not.

[PlasmaKrab]

Epoletov, you mean reducing the carry capacity or armed transport helicopters?
Like an Mi-8TVK (or whatever) with full complement of S-5 pods and Falanga missiles could take less troops than the basic Mi-8T?
Isn't that already the case? I know in my OOBs the armed Mi-8 has a carry of 124 against 132 or similar, but off the cuff I can't remember the official version.

If you're thinking that armed helicopters should not be able to carry significant troops, I'm of the opinion that if there is room, there should be the possibility to carry something. Even if it is not used in the game.

[KraMax]

PlasmaKrab
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I agree with you.

[Epoletov_SPR]

PlasmaKrab said:
Epoletov, you mean reducing the carry capacity or armed transport helicopters?
Like an Mi-8TVK (or whatever) with full complement of S-5 pods and Falanga missiles could take less troops than the basic Mi-8T?
Isn't that already the case? I know in my OOBs the armed Mi-8 has a carry of 124 against 132 or similar, but off the cuff I can't remember the official version.

If you're thinking that armed helicopters should not be able to carry significant troops, I'm of the opinion that if there is room, there should be the possibility to carry something. Even if it is not used in the game.

The helicopter has the limited carrying capacity.
Also I think if to take a maximum of the weapon then with a landing the helicopter will not fly up.
Here already there was an example such a case, it is described above.

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To limit use no partroop infantry and others units in parachute landings.
For example, having increased death rate at landing."

Why do we want to make Paratroops ungainly and thoroughly useless?

Isn't that a wee bit silly?

Wished to tell, that infantry without preparation of parachute jumps, it was less often used thus.
They to themselves will break legs at landing!

Or to make it the greater penalty of morals at landing, it is terrible in fact to jump with a parachute for the first time moreover in rear of the enemy!

[Marek_Tucan]

Epoletov_SPR said:
Wished to tell, that infantry without preparation of parachute jumps, it was less often used thus.
They to themselves will break legs at landing!

Or to make it the greater penalty of morals at landing, it is terrible in fact to jump with a parachute for the first time moreover in rear of the enemy!

But that's just wrong I think, no at least barely sane commander of say Army or Front would allow some weenie Brigade or even less commender to jump totally unprepared troops in an operation. Even non-paratroop units would get at least very basic parachute course (legs together, bent, if parachute doesn't open, quick prayer) if anyone would want to drop them and have them at least basically combat worthy.
Sure, they'd have higher casaulty rate on landing - just as they have it in reality - but even the German ad-hoc paratrooper unit used in Ardennes under von der Heydte suffered losses primarily due to pilot's inexperience and dispersion than due to inexperience of many "ersatz" paratroopers.
You have to always look on "the greater scheme of things" when planning a SP battle - "booking" airborne assault wasn't something Brigade commander can do at a whim, this means that he'd have to have planes and troops granted by his commanders and that in the time the operation is being prepared the troops intended for the op would receive at least minimal parachute training.

[RecruitMonty]

Ah, now I understand. For African countries and other 3rd World affairs, in MBT, if they actually have Paratroops (not sure they have enough cash for that) that might very well make sense.

[Epoletov_SPR]

To shoot usual rounds pressing button " Z " probably through a smoke (no LOS).
And here to shoot smoke rounds also it is impossible, and it is a pity!