My New Set Complete - Page 3

mlmbd · #21 January 2nd, 2003, 03:03 PM

GeneralVaughn, as per my reply to your PM. You and I have no problem.

Angelicans/Romiians, I am sorry you find my ships ugly. You have your opinion. It is so noted. As I told your friend 'Dave' in my PM, I will not get into a flame contest with either of you. I would like to mention FYI "a single ship, does not a shipset make". The ship is a Worldship. One of several I did for dogscoff's "NEOXPANTION V1._10" . So ofcourse they would look the same. Even if they are ugly. I have not posted an entire 'shipset' anywhere.

Hadrian,

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Your shipsets are different from most - a quality I like in ships

I do as well!

Unknown_Enemy - Gryphin, Done!

mlmbd

dogscoff · #22 January 2nd, 2003, 04:58 PM

Nice set. One suggestion I will make (and I make this to just about everyone who releases a shipset=-) is this:

How about some neostandard images? A worldship or a scout might be kinda fun, don't you think? Your race portrait looks like an infantry pic already, so you could just create a "civilian" Version of that and have one neostandard pic already...

Also, thanks for drawing my attention to that website, I had no idea it existed. Some of you webmasters need to advertise a little more

disabled · #23 January 2nd, 2003, 05:53 PM

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Suicide Junkie · #24 January 3rd, 2003, 12:44 AM

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I thought the neostandard mod had ended.

Well, its not a mod, and why/how would it "end"?

Its a simple idea to avoid naming confusion and encourage the use of more images in mods:
You want extra pictures for use in a mod, use these names.
You want to add images to your shipset for cool mods, use these names.

Instead of having battlemoons, deathstars, and other arbitrary names, you just use "worldship", and your mod/shipset is automatically compatible with whatever shipset/mod players want to use it with.

dogscoff · #25 January 3rd, 2003, 12:46 AM

thanks S_J, succinct as ever=-)

Unknown_Enemy · #26 January 3rd, 2003, 02:21 AM

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Posted by Angelicans/Romiians
As for "mlmbd", man I hate to break it to you, but your shipsets are ugly. Looks like takes on the cheaper SE3 shipsets... The bad ones.
Your shipsets could use some variety. They're too plain and flat. Maybe Dave should help you. And who said ships had to look similar? Wouldn't it be logical to have different shapes for diffent tasks?

Well, he is actually doing something. Like it or not, the work is there. What is needed is advices, not flames wars.

Gryphin · #27 January 3rd, 2003, 02:28 AM

Unknown Enemy, thank you.
I'd like to proffer:
Tone inflection and body language that would have turned many of the words / expresions here into wry or subtle humor with clearly no offence intended were lost in both the typing and reading of them.
Guys, Can we bury the Cap Ship Missles?
Thanks,
The Gryphin

disabled · #28 January 3rd, 2003, 05:07 AM

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GeneralVaughn · #29 January 3rd, 2003, 06:10 AM

mlmbd, as per our PM i've develloped respect for you, simply because you spoke your mind and went off on me, it sounds odd but I appreciate that from everyone.

The rest of you, thank you sincerely for offering me your criticism, if theres mods around that require additional ships to meet with its requirements.... I'd very much like the specs, if you like the ships I've created then I may create more to make it mod-compatible.. as im already considering making yet another one anyway.

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dogscoff · #30 January 3rd, 2003, 12:04 PM

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My general impression was that after SE4 Gold came out work was discontinued. I was upset because I was really looking forward to the expanded shipsets.

Well... like S_J says, the neostandard is essentially just a list of names, so once that was completed there wasn't much work to be continued.

You are probably referring to what is now called the neo-expansion pack, which is just a bunch of neostandard images for the stock races. While these are fun and add flavour to modded games, they are by no means required by any mod that I know of (except, arguably, the generic shipset in non-Gold mods.)

The thing to remember is that the neostandard is completely optional for modders, players and shipset creators. As long as you have the basic escort, frigate, destroyer etc as prescribed by Malfador you will be fine. Any extra images you have on top of that (ie the neostandard ones) are exactly that: Extra. Added Value. Bonus. The neostandard is just a way of maximising that added value.

General V: a list of the neostandard sizes is available here. Feel free to add all, some or none of them to your shipset(s). The inclusion or non-inclusion of these images will not affect compatibility of your shipset with mods in any way: Your shipset is already compatible with all the major mods.

However, let's suppose you add a scout image to your shipset. When someone then uses your shipset in proportions mod, they will be pleasantly surprised to see that while the Rage's scout looks exactly the same as its escort, yours has a distinct image for each. Likewise in Devnullmod and Ultimatevehiclesize mod.

As for which ones to include... the most commonly used are probably the Scout, the huge & massive fighters and the TroopInfantry. It's worth doing a worldship too because they are just so much fun (think Death Star; worldships are cool).
Like I say though, it's entirely up to you. Include as many or as few as you like.

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