Unlikely tactics, niche tactics, and specialized tactics.

K · #1 October 3rd, 2008, 05:50 PM

Ok, what are tactics that you've seen that seem to work despite being counter-intuitive or just plain weird? What are tactics from your games that only seem to work in almost unique situations? Name some tactics that you use that no one seems to pick up on.

I'll start:

-For a nation that gets fire-resistant troops, three flame drakes on Fire Closest and a starting army can usually take an indie province with no losses.

-Body Ethereal is a great spell to spam if you have elephants since it is very likely to hit them if they are grouped with a mage and they survive much longer when ethereal.

-Indie commanders spamming spells from items is often one of the best "kills to gems expended" ratios.

HoneyBadger · #2 October 3rd, 2008, 06:01 PM

Boosting EA Agartha's Ancient One commanders with Prot-increasing items. Black steel plate, helm, towershield, fire sword, plus double bracers and boots of the messenger (for the rejuvenation and resistance to cold/poison), with Earth/Nature bless. They can get up to Cyclops levels of Prot, with cheap equipment that they can forge relatively easily.

With Earth 10, they don't even need the boots.

HoneyBadger · #3 October 3rd, 2008, 06:20 PM

Has anyone ever checked to see if Rime Hauberk stacks with a Niefel's natural cold aura + the wolven winter cold aura spell? I know the Niefel's natural cold stacks with the spell, but I'm not sure Rime Hauberk adds to it. If so, it might be nice to have a couple Jarls thus equipped, in an army, to really put the freeze on.

Nikelaos · #4 October 3rd, 2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

Has anyone ever checked to see if Rime Hauberk stacks with a Niefel's natural cold aura + the wolven winter cold aura spell? I know the Niefel's natural cold stacks with the spell, but I'm not sure Rime Hauberk adds to it. If so, it might be nice to have a couple Jarls thus equipped, in an army, to really put the freeze on.

now that would be cool (pun intended)

also how about casting gift of flight on some elephants, really does rack up the pain if you set them to attack rearmost and crush the enemy mages before they get all the buffs down.

Tifone · #5 October 4th, 2008, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikelaos

also how about casting gift of flight on some elephants, really does rack up the pain if you set them to attack rearmost and crush the enemy mages before they get all the buffs down.

I did with trogs some time ago and worked quite well (SP).

OmikronWarrior · #6 October 3rd, 2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger

Has anyone ever checked to see if Rime Hauberk stacks with a Niefel's natural cold aura + the wolven winter cold aura spell? I know the Niefel's natural cold stacks with the spell, but I'm not sure Rime Hauberk adds to it. If so, it might be nice to have a couple Jarls thus equipped, in an army, to really put the freeze on.

I think I have, but it was quite some time ago. I believe the effects stack, but there was a ceiling that could not be surpassed (sort of like 80% misslie protection).

Trumanator · #7 October 3rd, 2008, 06:24 PM

not sure how niche or unlikely this is, but someone (Megablob?) had a very nasty trick for LA Ulm where you have a bunch of vampire counts cast summon lammashtas. They're immortal, so who cares if they die. for 10 D gems you get 20 flying, fear-inspiring, wraith sword wielding undead angels, enough to destroy almost any army w/out a lot of mage support.

thejeff · #8 October 3rd, 2008, 07:12 PM

I believe Rime Hauberk actually autocasts Breath of Winter in battle, which would mean they wouldn't stack.

I could be wrong about this. There was a discussion here quite awhile back about trying to use Crystal/Slave Matrices to get item effects to the slaves. Crystal shield does work. I can't remember what else did.

Easy check: does a unit with the Hauberk display the Chill effect outside of battle?

JimMorrison · #9 October 3rd, 2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thejeff

Easy check: does a unit with the Hauberk display the Chill effect outside of battle?

Rime Hauberk displays Chill and CR outside of combat.

IIRC Father of Winters can go over 30 Chill without much effort.....

Rytek · #10 October 3rd, 2008, 11:15 PM

The bait and swithch: Teleport, faerie trod,fly in using flying ship a middling weak army onto an enemy castle which is brimming with troops and mages.
Next round move that army out and teleport,cloud trapeze, fly or just regular move some high MR thugs and SC's. into that province. When he rightously sallies out to kill your army, you greet him with earthqukes, bone grindings and rain of stones. Next turn move your army back in and knock down the walls of the emty castle.